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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

Those questions were slightly outwith the remit of today’s meeting, deputy convener, but I gave you a bit of leeway.

There are no further questions, so I will just make an observation. As we in Scotland move forward with our energy ambitions, I see that across Great Britain 32 per cent of the power comes from wind and 5.9 per cent from solar—obviously that is not hugely relevant up here, where we still rely on gas and a base load of nuclear from the UK or the French. We want to use renewable energy where we can, but we also want to be sure in our minds that the plans include having a base load that we can use if and when we need it across the UK.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

Before we leave the topic, I want to make it abundantly clear, as I have done in previous meetings, that as a farmer, I have transmission lines across my land—I have 11KV lines, 33KV lines and I am in negotiation with regard to a 132KV transmission line—so I have an interest in them.

However, I was interested in what you have highlighted with regard to the scale of power line building that we will have to do to meet our requirements. In the Highlands, there is an outcry at the moment about the latest lines that are coming through and the incredibly poor negotiation between Scottish and Southern Electricity Networks and the people on the ground. Do you think that work needs to be done to ensure that people understand the need for the lines, and do you think there is a better way of doing this than power companies simply using compulsory powers to go in and place the lines without proper consultation?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

Good afternoon and welcome to the 14th meeting in 2023 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.

We have apologies from Monica Lennon and Mark Ruskell. I welcome Maggie Chapman, who joins us for the meeting. We are delighted to have you here and, in line with convention, I will give you the opportunity to ask your questions once committee members have asked theirs.

The first item is a decision on taking business in private. The committee is asked to consider whether to take item 3, which is consideration of the evidence that we will hear under item 2, in private. Do members agree to take item 3 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

Nice try, Jackie. I am not sure that you are going to get any further than that.

Minister, just before we leave hydrogen, it seems from the briefings that I have received that one of the problems with hydrogen is that you lose a lot of electricity—up to 30 or 40 per cent—from changing electricity into hydrogen and then have quite a high loss when you convert that back into electricity. There is also the issue of moving hydrogen around, which cannot necessarily be done in the gas network that we have. The committee has had some evidence that it can be done but only if it is diluted in the gas that is going round. How do you envisage the Government encouraging people to develop the technology to minimise losses and make the transmission of hydrogen around the UK easier?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

We will see at the end of the meeting whether you stick to that belief. The first questions will come from Liam Kerr.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

Before I come to Maggie Chapman, I should say that the clerk has reminded me that, in my original declaration, I reminded everyone about the power lines going through my farm. Of course, we receive a standard wayleave payment for that, as does everyone else, so there are payments involved. I should say, Jackie Dunbar, that they are not very much, in case you were worried that they were bigger than you had imagined—they are not.

Maggie Chapman, you wanted to ask some questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

Those are all the questions that we have. Thank you for coming up here, minister. I know that you do not need any excuse to get closer to your home patch—for lack of a better description—but it is good to see you, to hear your answering questions that you might not have thought you were going to have to answer and to hear you doing so with openness. I appreciate your giving us your time, and I look forward to receiving correspondence on the areas on which you have undertaken to write to us. Our clerks will remind you of those areas after the meeting.

That is all that we have for you—thank you for your time. The committee will now go into private session.

15:05 Meeting continued in private until 15:21.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

This is pushing it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Edward Mountain

I think that we will all agree with that. The cabinet secretary will understand the problems of buses in rural areas or those areas that have few such services, and I am sure that, after this meeting, she will accept an approach from Monica Lennon to discuss specific examples.

Mark Ruskell, I am happy to let you in if your question is very brief. I will then bring the session to a close.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Edward Mountain

We can ask the next panel that question, because we know where SEPA’s budget is going as a result of the last budget review.

The next questions are from Ash Regan.