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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. We move to questions from the committee.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 16th meeting in 2023 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. Under our first agenda item, we will decide whether to take items 5 and 6 in private. Item 5 is consideration of the evidence that we will hear under item 4, and item 6 is consideration of a draft report on the Scottish Government’s air quality improvement plan. Do we agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Edward Mountain

I will leave it to you to inform the cabinet secretary’s office and, if you think that it is relevant as a committee issue, to keep the committee informed. If it is more relevant as a constituency issue, you can do that—the balance is for you to decide.

Before we leave hydro, I have a question for the cabinet secretary. There are some great examples of water being used more than once to generate electricity. The Tummel scheme, where water goes through five dams to generate electricity, is a good example. A bad example might be the water going down to Lochaber, which goes through one generation scheme but comes from three different catchments, including the one that I live in, which is the Spey catchment. How will the Scottish Government encourage a more holistic approach and more use of water that is being stored to generate as much electricity as possible?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Edward Mountain

I look forward to the opportunity to discuss whether it is income or capital for Crown Estate and whether the money should remain within the Crown Estate or come into the Scottish purse, which is a conversation that I had with your predecessor.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Edward Mountain

I was taken by an answer that you gave there, cabinet secretary. I do not want to put words into your mouth, but I think that you said that you are not sure that people across Scotland know how much extra transmission we will need across Scotland to meet the demands and the needs of reaching net zero. I think that Scottish and Southern Electricity Networks is talking seven years in advance. I am not sure what the duration is for Scottish Power Energy Networks, but it is a relatively short-term thing.

Would it be useful if we came up with a plan to show what transmission will be needed in order to reach net zero? My mailbox is overloaded at the moment, perhaps like the national grid, and I do not think that anyone knows what is coming down the track towards them. Do you think that we ought to be honest with people and tell them that now?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Edward Mountain

I have one question before we leave this issue. There has been some discussion that the auctions for ScotWind did not produce as much income as they might have done, on the basis that more emphasis was put on the supply chain benefits. Can you try to quantify that or dispel that rumour before we move on?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Edward Mountain

The next item of business is the consideration of a draft Scottish statutory instrument. I am pleased to welcome to the meeting Kevin Stewart, the Minister for Transport, and I welcome him to his new role. From Transport Scotland, I welcome to the meeting Natalie Barton, who is a solicitor, and George Beale-Pratt, who is the smart policy manager. I thank them for joining us.

The instrument is laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that the Parliament must approve it?before?it?comes?into force. Following the evidence session, the committee will be invited at the next agenda item to consider a motion to approve the instrument.?I remind members that officials can speak under this item but not in the debate that follows. I believe that the minister would like to make a short opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you, minister. Do any committee members have questions that they would like to ask?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Edward Mountain

The next decision is on whether to consider our draft report in private at future meetings. Do members agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Edward Mountain

The committee will report on the outcomes of the instrument in due course. I invite the committee to delegate authority to me as convener to finalise the report for publication. Are members happy to do that?

Members indicated agreement.