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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

Welcome back. Our next item is consideration of an instrument laid under the negative procedure, which means that its provisions will come into force unless the Parliament agrees to a motion to annul it. No motions to annul have been lodged.

If members have no comments on the instrument—[Interruption.]—I am sorry, Ms Dunbar.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you. Does the committee agree that it does not wish to make any recommendations in relation to the instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

Before we move on to the next item of business, minister, and while you have your team around you, it would be helpful if we could explore a wee bit why we are going on to that item, which is on an affirmative Scottish statutory instrument that will delay the scheme that was put before Parliament to March 2024 and will modify it, although we know that it will not start then.

What have you done to expedite the outcome so that the committee can consider something that is—it appears to me and might appear so to people outside Parliament—purely a delaying process that kicks some parts of the scheme down the road so that we do not have a start date? Could we have done something different, whereby the committee considered an SSI to put the whole DRS on hold, rather than amending the scheme before recess? I would like to hear your views on that; people who are watching would find it helpful.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay. My point is that I would slightly question, therefore, where the failure is if you have not got to that level of granularity.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

Mark, can I come in with a follow-up question before you go on to your next one?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

Sorry—I say this out of interest because I have always slightly struggled on this point. We will still need to collect glass in recycling bins, such as jam jars and all the rest of it. Surely, the local councils are used to funding that collection through the money that they raise by collecting better glass and selling it on. Now, their glass recycling will just be a loss for them, will it not?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

Good morning and welcome to the 21st meeting in 2023 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. We have received apologies from the deputy convener, Fiona Hyslop; Bob Doris is attending the meeting as her substitute—welcome to the committee, Bob. As this is the first meeting that you are attending as a substitute member of the committee, I invite you to declare any relevant interests.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

The second item of business is a decision on taking items 6 and 7 on our agenda in private. Item 6 is consideration of evidence that we will hear under agenda item 3 and item 7 is consideration of our approach to the future Scottish Land Commission appointments. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

We also have to decide whether to consider our work programme in private next week, and whether to consider our report, “Scotland’s electricity infrastructure: inhibitor or enabler of our energy ambitions?” in private at future meetings. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay—that is helpful. Minister, do you have a view, from your discussions, on whether the mood music around 20p per container was going to be something that all the other interested parties in the UK would buy into?