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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I want to be clear in my understanding of the situation. If the ferries community board gets the board of CalMac replaced, it is happy to recommend a direct award or contract. Is that what you are saying?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

It really is all over now, minister. Thank you for giving evidence to the committee this morning.

I suspend the meeting briefly to allow the minister to leave. Committee members should be back in five minutes, please.

12:00 Meeting suspended.  

12:05 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Welcome back, everyone. Our next item of business is consideration of a type 1 consent notification for the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Act 2023 (Revocation and Sunset Disapplication) Regulations 2023. This is a proposed UK statutory instrument where the UK Government is seeking the Scottish Government’s consent to legislate in an area of devolved competence.

On 5 September, the Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Net Zero and Just Transition notified the committee of the UK SI. The committee’s role is to decide whether it agrees with the Scottish Government’s proposal to consent to the UK Government’s making those regulations within devolved competence, and in the manner that the UK Government has indicated to the Scottish Government.

If members are content for consent to be given, the committee will write to the Scottish Government accordingly. In writing to the Scottish Government, we have the option to pose questions or to ask to be kept up to date on relevant developments. I remind committee members that we have written to the Scottish Government and the UK Government in relation to the SI, asking for responses within a reasonable timeframe, which I believe expires tomorrow.

Do members have any views, questions or comments?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

So, peatlands may fall within Màiri McAllan’s portfolio, but the land reform side of it, if there is land reform on peatlands, will fall within your portfolio.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you, minister. Last week, we clarified who is in charge of what aspects of the ferries and you are in charge of actually making them work rather than the purchase and management of vessels 801 and 802 before they come into service. I am happy with that.

When it comes to major transport infrastructure, there seems to be a separation of responsibilities. Roads infrastructure falls to you, but active travel and cycling infrastructure falls to Mr Harvie. How will you take that into account? How do you work together on delivery—say, on the small bit of A9 dualling that is now out for tender?

10:30  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you, minister. Those were the easy questions. We now turn to the difficult questions, starting with some from Mark Ruskell.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I will push you on that. We are running out of time to go out to tender for the contract. I feel that one of the most difficult decisions to make would be to recommend that it is again awarded to CalMac. Islanders are probably thinking, “How can you give it to CalMac, when it has been so bad at delivering what it has been delivering for the last contract period?”

I want to push you on when we are going to get an answer. I would also like to know what key things you will do to reassure islanders that if it is a direct award, you will be right on top of the delivery of the service. The figures that we got from CalMac on its delivery of standards were opaque, to say the least.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Your point is well made, Mark. The committee has written to both the Scottish Government and the UK Government to ask for their opinions and what actions are available to them if this SI is passed, and we will have to consider carefully the letters that we get back at a later date.

As the Scottish Government is consenting to what the UK Government is doing, it is difficult for us to do within the timeframe any more than what is in those letters. That is the quandary in which we find ourselves. The committee will just have to understand that we will look carefully at the letters from both the UK and Scottish Governments when they come back. If we want to make recommendations, we can do so, but in the meantime, I fear that we have little or no option but to agree to the SI.

I will move to the substantive question. Is the committee content that the provision set out in the notification should be made to the proposed UK statutory instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

The next questions come from Ash Regan.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Just before we leave the topic of railways, one of the reasons that was given when ScotRail was nationalised was that Abellio was not meeting its public performance measures. However, with fewer trains and less work being done on the railways, the Scottish Government is still failing to meet its targets. What is the reason for that?