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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I think that I am correct in saying that the Transport (Scotland) Act 2019 states that it has to be done by local councils, not by central Government. That is what Parliament agreed to in the previous parliamentary session.

Jackie, you wanted to come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay.

As for the rearrangement of the structure involving Transport Scotland, CalMac and CMAL, the committee’s recommendation in its report reflected the recommendation in the previous Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee’s report. Two committees have made that same point. Some people might be holding out against those changes, but it is clear that two committees in different parliamentary sessions have recommended that they be made.

Are there any other questions? Douglas, you are not coming in on the A96 again, are you?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

That concludes our business in public. We now move into private session.

12:12 Meeting continued in private until 12:31.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 26th meeting in 2023 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. The first item on the agenda is a decision on whether to take items 5 and 6 in private. Item 5 is consideration of evidence that we will hear under agenda item 2, and item 6 is consideration of our work programme. Do we agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Our next item of business is an evidence session with the Scottish Government to discuss its priorities following the change of First Minister and the associated reshuffle earlier this year. That made things more interesting—or, perhaps, more complicated—for the committee in that, instead of scrutinising the work of one Cabinet minister, we now find ourselves scrutinising the work of three.

We heard from the Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Net Zero and Just Transition in June, and we heard from the Cabinet Secretary for Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy last week. This week, we begin by hearing from the Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands, Mairi Gougeon. Welcome, cabinet secretary.

I am pleased to also welcome George Burgess, director of agriculture and rural economy, and David Signorini, interim director of environment and forestry, both from the Scottish Government.

The evidence session takes place in the run-up to preparations for the Scottish Government’s budget for 2023-24, and following confirmation earlier this month that there is to be a new land reform bill.

Cabinet secretary, I believe that you wish to make an opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you, cabinet secretary. Before we go any further, I remind the committee and the cabinet secretary of my entry in the register of members’ interests, which clearly shows that I am a member of a family farming partnership and own land in Moray.

Now that that is on the record I would like to clarify something before we move to questions. When we were discussing land reform prior to the reshuffle, it fell within Màiri McAllan’s portfolio. Can you confirm to me that everything to do with land reform now falls purely within your portfolio, cabinet secretary?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Gosh, it is terribly confusing, but I am glad that we have got that on the record. I can look back and make sure that I get it right in the future. Ash Regan has the first questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Before we move on to the next question, I note that we wrote to you, cabinet secretary, on the appointment of land commissioners. Andrew Thin is stepping down as chairman, and we asked why you had chosen to extend his time in post for three months. That suggests that you started the recruitment too late or that there was a problem with it. Could you highlight the reason for that extension, please?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I am sorry—I am completely confused. I understand that you want continuity but, if you want continuity, surely you should recruit before the person’s time is up rather than extending their time in post.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I presume that, when you took over the rolling stock as part of the nationalisation, there was a contract for leasing the stock, which included HSTs. When is the first time that you can get out of that contract?