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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I thank the minister and her officials. That concludes the public part of the meeting, and we move into private session.

11:22 Meeting continued in private until 12:05.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 27th meeting in 2023 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on whether to take items 5, 6 and 7 in private. Item 5 is consideration of the evidence that we will hear today on the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill and of our approach to future engagement. Item 6 is consideration of the evidence that we will hear today on the deposit return scheme and item 7 is consideration of our approach to the second supplementary legislative consent motion on the United Kingdom Energy Bill.

Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Monica Lennon has quite a few questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I am looking to see whether anyone is jumping up and down. I thought that you were trying to do that, Cat. Do you want to come in on that, very briefly?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Ewan raised his hand quickly, so he can go first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Sorry—I think that Ewan MacDonald-Russell was going to jump in. He said that there was little, and then he got cut off, so I am sure that he wants to say something.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Ash, is that your questioning complete?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Before we go to questions, I draw your attention to, and remind the committee of, the fact that we wrote to the Secretary of State for Scotland before the summer recess. In his response, he referred us to DEFRA, but DEFRA said that it did not want to attend a meeting. I have since written again on behalf of the committee, asking for a response and saying that we are not happy at being pushed from one arm of Government to another. Unfortunately, the response is not due until 30 September. I urge the UK Government to assist the committee’s understanding of the reasons behind the situation. That is all that I will say on the issue at this stage. Obviously, once we get a response, we can come back to it.

Minister, I will ask a very simple question. Glass was out, but cans could have been in. Would something not have been better than nothing? Should we not have gone with recycling cans?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Have you thrown everything out as far as cans and plastic bottles are concerned? Was there not perhaps a year to work on getting the labelling and the deposit level correct, so that we could have gone ahead with the scheme? I think that most people in Scotland felt that there would be a benefit from recycling cans and plastic containers.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I assume, minister, that you do not want to sum up on what you have heard from members.