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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Colin mentioned his concerns about the ramifications of the internal market act. I would be grateful to hear your comments and concerns on that, Ewan.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I am sure that you will. Cat Hay, is the Food and Drink Federation Scotland also nervous, or relaxed?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Ewan is jumping in quickly.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I am looking around to see whether there are any more questions. There are none.

This has been a very interesting session. As a parliamentarian, I find framework legislation terrifying, although I am sure that it enthuses the Government because it allows all things to happen. The points that you have made about various issues, such as regulatory divergence and definitions, are helpful. I am sure that you will listen to future evidence sessions and will want to feed back to the committee. On the basis of what we have heard today, more information to help us make our decisions would be very useful. On behalf of the committee, I thank you for your time.

I will briefly suspend the meeting to allow for a changeover of witnesses and I ask committee members to be back at 10:45.

10:42 Meeting suspended.  

10:48 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

It sounds as though an awful lot of moving parts were not tied down before we got to the date when the scheme was meant to start.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

That takes me back to my days of looking up net present values in “Parry’s Valuation and Investment Tables” and working out how we get to certain interest rates or tax rates. We will move swiftly away from that topic and have some questions from Douglas Lumsden.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you.

As members have no further questions, I have two very quick ones. The first relates to an observation. Framework bills are great. Civil servants and ministers love them. However, parliamentarians hate them, because they cannot scrutinise what is coming. Is that assessment fair or unfair, minister?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

That sounds very convincing, but it does not convince me. It will minimise scrutiny by the Parliament.

I will ask my final question. The statutory instrument does not remove glass from the DRS. The UK Government has said that glass will not be included. In October 2025, will you have to bring another statutory instrument to remove glass from the Scottish scheme, or will you bring a whole heap more? I ask that just so the committee knows what is coming down the track.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay, so we have a lot more to look forward to in 2025, including glass.

Since there are no further comments or questions from the committee, we move to the formal consideration of motion S6M-09842. Minister, do you want to say anything more?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I see that no member wishes to contribute. [Interruption.] How remiss of me, minister. I should have asked you to move the motion, as I assume you are here to do.

Motion moved,

That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the Deposit and Return Scheme for Scotland (Miscellaneous Amendment) Regulations 2023 [draft] be approved.—[Lorna Slater]