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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 22 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I call amendment 122, in the name of Ben Macpherson.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I see the minister nodding, so perhaps we can leave it at that. She is happy to engage. The committee gave the Government extra time to engage, but there was not a huge amount of extra time, so extra work will be required. I am sure that, by nodding, the minister was implying that she is happy to do that.

I go back to Bob Doris, who will speak to amendment 187 and other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Welcome back to our session on stage 2 of the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill. Amendment 1, in the name of Maurice Golden, is grouped with amendments 187, 188, 2, 3, 189, 80 and 190. I call Maurice Golden to move amendment 1 and speak to all the amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I call Graham Simpson to speak to amendment 2 and any other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Mr Golden, we are about to come to your winding-up remarks on your own amendments, and the minister has come to a natural conclusion. I am conscious that everyone wants to debate the matter, and it is great that they want to do so, but there are some constraints on us.

Mr Golden, I now ask you to wind up, and perhaps you can make the point that you were going to make as part of that. I also ask whether you wish to press or withdraw amendment 141.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I am looking to see whether any other members want to say anything before I make a couple of points. I am happy to bring in Monica Lennon first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I just want to make a couple of points, if I may.

First, I think that amendment 187 in the name of Bob Doris is interesting, and I understand where it has come from, given the evidence that we have received. My problem with it, however, is that I love tight legislation, because it stops arguments and disagreements.

I just note that there are, I believe, 78 countries in the global south. If I am right, the original definition related to countries that suffer from poor economic development and which perhaps lack democracy and have problems with their location, but it has since been changed to cover countries that have been affected by development—or more developed nations. I have real problems with that; I know of countries that are surrounded by other countries that are part of the global south, but they are not part of the global south themselves. As a result, they are excluded, even though, geographically, they are in the same position.

I therefore urge Mr Doris, as a committee member, to reconsider whether these things are defined correctly in his amendment, and perhaps to lodge a slightly different amendment at stage 3.

I am happy to give way to you, Mr Doris.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Will the minister take an intervention?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 3, Against 4, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 93 disagreed to.

Amendments 132, 181, 182 and 208 to 210 not moved.

Amendment 94 moved—[Sarah Boyack]—and agreed to.

Amendment 183 not moved.

Amendments 95 to 97 moved—[Sarah Boyack]—and agreed to.

Amendment 133 moved—[Maurice Golden].