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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Edward Mountain

It strikes me that, if targets and regulations are placed on products up here and not south of the border, it is not that inconvenient to make sure that you do not have to pay the extra costs that may be incurred by buying those products in Scotland. Do you think that that is a realistic issue?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Edward Mountain

But you would encourage early dialogue.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Edward Mountain

I will make an observation. If people see that there is an aspirational direction of travel, it might inspire them to take that direction but, at the end of the day, if they do not see a return for the capital that they have invested in the project, you could set whatever target you like and make it as aspirational as you like, but it will not mean much. What I have heard from you, minister, does not give me confidence that the 7TWh is achievable. That is my concern.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Edward Mountain

I was going to say that that was a perfect point on which to end, but Mark Ruskell is going to trump me.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Edward Mountain

That was a very useful session, and we are now at the end of it. Thank you very much for coming, for sitting through both sessions and for answering our questions in the latter session. It was very helpful for us.

11:59 Meeting continued in private until 12:23.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you, minister. I will start the questions.

I think that we produce about 1.18TWh of heat through heat networks. What are the targets to get us to the 2035 target of 7TWh?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Edward Mountain

In effect, within three years, we have to more than double what we are doing at the moment. Is that achievable?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Edward Mountain

There are some other questions, but I have got a quick one first.

Minister, you made the point that heat networks are used in Denmark and that they are very attractive in Glasgow. In most cases in Denmark and Glasgow, we are talking about urban conurbations or larger conurbations. Given that the biggest cost for heat pumps is surely the piping and the insulating of the piping, are they ever going to become attractive in rural areas, where houses are spread out?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Jim Fairlie, very quickly.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Edward Mountain

I will avoid the temptation to talk about heat pumps in old houses. Douglas Lumsden, do you want to ask a question?