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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 22 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

Thanks, Ben.

Mark, I think that you have some questions now.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

If someone diversified a proportion of the holding to the extent that farming the remainder of the holding became impossible, would that be allowed? Is there a concern about that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

I want to check that I understand what you are saying. Let us take the example of a 600-hectare farm. Let us say that a proposal was made to use 300 hectares of it for Christmas trees, for example, because the existing farmer wanted to run a smaller number of sheep and cattle. Subsequently, it would be impossible to farm a greater number of sheep and cattle, because the land would be being used for Christmas trees. What rights does the landlord have in that situation, or does he not have any?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

My other question is about the encouragement of diversification. A lot of farms have more than one house, but the farm itself might produce enough work for only one family and, as a result, the houses are sometimes used as holiday lettings or, indeed, places where retired or younger members of the family can live. That sort of thing is not covered the rent review—and is, in fact, excluded. Is that right?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

If the deemed landlord were the landowner and they had to do all that work, would it not be reasonable for them to expect some return for that in the rent? If the deemed landlord was the tenant, obviously they, too, would need to offset some of the costs that they incur for all their work.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

I see that committee members have no further questions, so without opening this up to a long diatribe about everything that we have missed, I just want to ask you whether there is anything in particular that we have missed and which we ought to be thinking about in future sessions. I ask that you limit your comments in that respect, but is there anything that you think that we need to concentrate on?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

Fergus or Gail, do you want to add anything?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

It does seem somewhat confusing. Fergus or Gail, do you want to add anything?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the 22nd meeting in 2024 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. Our first item of business is to decide whether to take in private item 3, which is consideration of the evidence that we have heard on the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill. Do we agree to take that item in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2024

Edward Mountain

The second and main item of business is our second stage 1 evidence session on the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill. This is the first panel of legal advisers that the committee will hear from during our scrutiny of the bill, and it is likely that we will have a second such panel after summer recess.

I am pleased to welcome Gail Watt, who is the convener of the property and land law reform sub-committee at the Law Society of Scotland. Our next witness is Fergus—how will I get this right? Am I about to pronounce your surname incorrectly?