Skip to main content
Loading…

Chamber and committees

Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

Filter your results Hide all filters

Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 September 2025
Select which types of business to include


Select level of detail in results

Displaying 6078 contributions

|

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I am going to stop you for a minute because a helicopter is flying over and I am struggling to hear you.

I think it has passed. My hearing is not great at the best of times. I am sorry, minister. Would you like to continue?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I call Douglas Lumsden to wind up on behalf of Murdo Fraser and to press or withdraw amendment 201.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

There may be interventions already stacked up, Ms Lennon. I am just looking to see whether any committee members want to say anything. No, they do not. However, I know that Maurice Golden wanted to come in. Do you want to come in now?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I think that we have got ourselves in a little tangle here. Just to remind members, the way it works is that you speak to all the amendments in the group, and then other members come in. You cannot, halfway through your speech on the amendments, invite interventions on some of the amendments and then return to addressing the other amendments.

Now that we have clarified that, on the basis that Monica Lennon genuinely misunderstood the process, I invite her to speak to the other amendments in the group, and then I will invite the minister to speak, before coming back to Ms Lennon to wind up. I think that she has not talked about mattresses and reusable bottles yet. I will let her speak to those amendments and then come to the minister.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Ms Lennon, before we go on, I beseech members to understand the difficult position in which I find myself. So far, we have spent 38 minutes discussing the group of amendments. I absolutely understand the need to debate openly and honestly. That is the point of stage 2. I understand people’s passions about each of the areas. We all have passions and things that we want to achieve through the bill. However, there are deadlines, although they are quite loose, under parliamentary procedure. I am very flexible and can work until 10 or 12 o’clock at night, if that is what the committee would like to do to get through the amendments.

I just ask members to bear in mind everyone’s passions at each stage and to ensure that, where possible, they ask crisp and concise questions and give crisp and concise speeches on the matters that they feel are important.

10:45  

I will not say that again; I have said it twice now. I am very happy to work every hour the Parliament asks me to work to get through the amendments, but it might not suit everyone else to do so.

I guess I am saying at this stage that this meeting will probably go on until 1.30 or a quarter to 2: I give fair warning. Our meetings may have to extend into some evenings next week to get through the amendments.

I have said my piece. I promise that I will not say it again. I apologise if I have offended anyone; that is not the aim.

I invite Douglas Lumsden to come in now, and then Monica Lennon can respond.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

We will now go to the open debate—which I feel we may have had already.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Amendment 129, in the name of Jackie Dunbar, is grouped with amendments 36 to 38, 130, 39 and 44. I call Jackie Dunbar to move amendment 129 and speak to amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I call Maurice Golden to speak to amendment 36 and any other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I would like to make a couple of points that I ask Jackie Dunbar to speak to in her summing up.

First, on the collection of household waste, we have heard about the ease of getting a certificate off the website; it takes a matter of moments, with no due diligence. We have also heard about whether it is important for licensed collectors who use a vehicle to display their licence on the side of it, as that will automatically allow householders to see it and people following them up to ascertain whether they have one. I wonder whether the member has considered that issue and whether she could refer to it in her conclusion.

Secondly, we have heard about the problems with bin fines and the bin police, especially when bins are used by multiple residents, as happens, especially in Edinburgh. For example, as silly as it might seem, my bins at home all have to be locked; people just put stuff in them, because they are adjacent to the road. It is very difficult. Every single bin has a padlock on it, and it just seems ludicrous that you have to lock up your rubbish. I do not know whether the minister has reflected on that issue, but it would be useful to hear some comments on it.

As no other members wish to say anything, I call the minister.