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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

On that note, we come to the end of the evidence session. I will briefly pause the meeting to allow officials to leave before we move on to the next agenda item. It is 11:58, so I ask committee members to be back and ready to start again at 11:03—I am sorry; I meant 12:03. We cannot go backwards in time.

11:58 Meeting suspended.  

12:03 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

I will let Ben Macpherson come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

Was it circulated with the committee papers? I do not think that it was.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

It also poses the question of how the Parliament will be able to scrutinise those targets if they are not in the bill. Perhaps we should seek clarity on that at stage 2. If the Parliament knew how it would be able to scrutinise those targets, it would give us a certain amount of clarity.

Monica Lennon is next.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

I would like to spend all day discussing this, but we do not have the time at our disposal. Mark Ruskell is next.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

My point is that it would have been helpful if Amazon had come to see us as well, and not just you.

Now that I have got that on the record, I will move on. Last week, the Finance and Public Administration Committee published an interesting report on the financial memorandum for the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill. Will you summarise the key findings of that bill for the committee?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay. I think that I have given you my steer on that.

The next questions come from Mark Ruskell.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

Douglas, you have had a fair crack at that. I will come to questions from Mark Ruskell and Ben Macpherson.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

Minister, I have a broad question. In the build-up to the bill’s publication, did you have meetings with large organisations in Scotland to discuss the contents of the bill? More specifically—this is a simple question—did you have a meeting with Amazon to discuss the bill?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Edward Mountain

Our next item of business is our final evidence session as part of our stage 1 scrutiny of the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill. I am pleased to welcome the Minister for Green Skills, Circular Economy and Biodiversity, Lorna Slater, who is joined by Scottish Government officials. Ginny Gardner is head of the circular strategy unit; Gareth Heavisides is the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill team leader. I hope that I got the pronunciation of his name right—is it pronounced Heevisides?