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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you, David. The next questions are from Mark Ruskell.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Rob Carlow, if you were out to buy some land for a woodland and you took on a management plan, which you were then forced to abide by, and you had to continue farming for another five years before you could plant your trees, because that was the duration of the plan, would that stop you investing in the land?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

The next question comes from Bob Doris—sorry, Tara has her hand up. Both the deputy convener and I missed that, so we will let her come in briefly.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Welcome back to our meeting of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. This is our second panel on part 1 of the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill and it is made up of investors and/or investment experts. We have Rob Carlow, director of investment and operations, forestry, at Gresham House; Finlay Clark, head of energy and climate at Bidwells; and Sandra Holmes, head of community assets at Highlands and Islands Enterprise.

I remind members that I made a full declaration of interests at the start of the session, which remains extant. I also say for clarity that I have known Finlay Clark for some years because we worked together until 2006—I do not mean that, since then, we have worked against each other, but that we were in the same company until then.

I start with an easy question to Rob Carlow. For the record, could you clarify the scale and extent of the landholdings of Gresham House and its subsidiary companies—however that land is actually held, not just managed?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay, that will be on the record, and it will be up to the committee members whether they want to take that forward.

Thank you very much for coming to give evidence this morning. We will now move into private session.

12:19 Meeting continued in private until 13:08.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Is that the position in the majority of cases? I am sorry, but we have hedged around this for a fair while and I am looking for some clarity, in the same way that I drilled down into the matter when the John Muir Trust was here. It is fine to say, “We manage it, but it’s owned by the Gresham House number 2 account”, but that is not the openness and transparency that I am looking for, so I push you to be a bit clearer on that, please, Rob.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Is it 1 per cent—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

David, I am probably going to help you, having looked at your accounts for 2023, which suggest that the John Muir Trust owns 25,400 hectares of land, although some people say that it is significantly more.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

You say the area is around that figure. It would be helpful if you could clarify that afterwards, because I think that there is some dubiety.

Monica, do you want to come in?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I am happy if you deal with—