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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I am glad that you clarified that, because it could have ended up with lots of correspondence coming to the committee. When the Government introduces its crofting reform bill, perhaps it will clarify which of the three acts on crofting we are supposed to be working under, and will resolve all the sump issues that were brought up years ago. It will all be easier, and small landholders will then be able to decide whether they want to become crofters.

We have come to the end of our evidence session. Much to my annoyance, we have skipped over some questions. Cabinet secretary, we will send you those in writing, and I ask that you respond to them fairly quickly. Fiona—if you respond to Rhoda Grant, I ask that you do so through the committee, and we will ensure that she receives the answers to her questions.

We will now have a short break from land reform matters before we start considering our stage 1 report, which I am sure will be a lengthy but interesting process. We will make a start on that in roughly two weeks’ time.

I thank our witnesses very much for their evidence. I suspend the meeting for five minutes.

12:05 Meeting suspended.  

12:08 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Appointment of the Chair of Environmental Standards Scotland

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

That was not the last question, Mark—the last one is from Monica Lennon. Sorry, Monica.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Some people are talking about it. They feel that it should be part of the bill and that they should be compensated for something. It is a bit like buying a Mini and then handing it back and saying, “I had been hoping for a Rolls-Royce, so I’ll take the money for the Rolls-Royce rather than the money that I would have got for the Mini”. Is that not a fair analogy?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I am not sure how nuanced the word “no” can be. My questions to almost all the witnesses asked for yes or no answers and, although a few witnesses sat on the fence, a clear majority of them said no. How do you nuance “no” to make it sound as though those witnesses were agreeing with your proposals?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

We will write to the Scottish Government to that effect.

12:43 Meeting continued in private until 12:57.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Cabinet secretary, I am sure that you would like to answer that question, but I know that parliamentarians have very strong views about introducing at stage 2 things that have not been consulted on at stage 1.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I might find myself in complete disagreement with a fellow committee member, but I ask you to bear that in mind.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Welcome back. The cabinet secretary has been joined by two new officials as we consider part 2 of the bill. I welcome Fiona Leslie, agricultural holdings and women in agriculture team leader, and Andrew Crawley, a solicitor at the Scottish Government.

Cabinet secretary, I start with the easy question. Why did the Government decide not to proceed with the statutory land management tenancy that had been consulted on?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

The responses from people regarding whether that was a good or a bad idea were a bit more nuanced. Would it have been helpful to have a lease-forming part of the bill rather than introducing it through secondary legislation?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Edward Mountain

The difficulty is that, if all that is to be in secondary legislation, it is virtually impossible to see whether the figure is proportionate.

Bob Doris has some questions.