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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 25 February 2025
Edward Mountain
I first looked at such statutory instruments when they came to the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee in 2016. It seems to be taking a long time before we get some concessionary travel for people on islands who use buses that happen to have propellers and not wheels, whereas on the mainland they have wheels and they get subsidised.
The next question comes from Bob Doris.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 25 February 2025
Edward Mountain
In effect, you are saying that you have already convinced older people—the over-60s—to use the bus, so you do not need to encourage them to do it and you do not need to get the bus companies to encourage them to do it, but you are working on the younger generation to get them to use the bus more. Is that what you are trying to do with the scheme? I am just trying to work that out. We know that a lot of older people use the bus, and there will be a penalty to the companies for that, whereas young people are being encouraged to use the bus more. Is that the aim, minister?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 25 February 2025
Edward Mountain
Kevin Stewart, you have a question on that before we move to Sarah Boyack.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 25 February 2025
Edward Mountain
That sounds really retrograde.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 25 February 2025
Edward Mountain
I think that Douglas Lumsden has a question—
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 25 February 2025
Edward Mountain
The committee will report on the outcome of the instrument in due course, and I invite it to delegate authority to me as convener to approve a draft of the report for publication. Are we all agreed?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 25 February 2025
Edward Mountain
I thank the minister and his officials.
I suspend the meeting briefly for a changeover of witnesses, and I must ask members to be back here by 10:23.
10:18 Meeting suspended.
10:24 On resuming—
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 25 February 2025
Edward Mountain
Thank you. Mark, you kindly let me in. I know that you have another question, and then we will go to Douglas Lumsden.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 25 February 2025
Edward Mountain
Thank you very much, Nicole.
Before we begin questions, I want to be open and transparent, as I always like to be, and refer members to my declaration of interests, because I am not sure where our questions will go. As a farmer in Speyside, I come across SEPA when it comes to abstraction from the River Spey and, obviously, farming regulations. As a joint owner of a fishery on the River Spey, I also come into contact with SEPA, again through abstraction from the river, and also through catchment management planning and all that that involves, as the Spey Fishery Board, of which I am part, plays a role in that. I hope that that is clear. My full entry can be seen in the register of members’ interests.
Nicole, I guess that this question is coming to you—not everyone will get to answer all the questions, so you will have to make sure that you allocate them correctly. I hope that I am starting in the right way. Your annual report for 2023-24 states that you have been “resetting” your organisation. What does that mean and how has SEPA changed?
Meeting of the Parliament
Meeting date: 25 February 2025
Edward Mountain
Members of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee support the motion, but with reluctance and with more than some frustration. When we debated the second legislative consent motion on the Great British Energy Bill, five short days ago, I talked about the committee literally rushing through the motions for the sake of standing orders in order to produce a report that could say almost nothing. The present motion would prevent us from having to go through that again, in even more extreme circumstances, and in that sense it is welcome.
However, any objective observer can see that this is not the way in which our legislative consent process is meant to work. This is the third time that I have stood here to talk about the bill. The first time round, I had some strong words for the Scottish Government, after the committee had been made to wait for months for a substantive legislative consent memorandum, and I hope that it listened.
The present case concerns an amendment with devolved elements, which was tabled and agreed late in the day at Westminster. That was not the Scottish Government’s doing, and I accept that, like death and taxes, late amendments will always be with us. However, it seems that there cannot be a mechanism to hit the pause button at Westminster whenever that happens. Why not? It would buy us a little more time to consider such amendments. That is not an unreasonable ask, and the committee thinks that the Scottish Parliament should explore it further. The late amendment in question looks unobjectionable, but that is a matter of chance and might not always be the case.
Although the committee supports the motion, it feels that we should actively explore, with our counterparts, ways to ensure that we do not have to go through this rather futile process again.
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