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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Edward Mountain

That goes back to what I was always told at school: show your workings, and you might get some marks for that.

We move to questions from Bob Doris—over to you, Bob.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Before we have a brief pause to allow people to stretch their legs ahead of the second round of questioning, I will ask a final question. It sounds as though Clare Wharmby, Graeme Roy and, to a certain extent, Richard Dixon are suggesting that we need some early warning indicators to let us know whether we are not achieving targets. Richard, you mentioned transport, which is one of our biggest emitters, and suggested that we know some of the things that are happening, such as developments around concessionary fares and electric vehicles. Should the plan include early warning systems that say that, if we do not achieve a certain thing, we need to pay more attention? Is that what you are suggesting? I do not want to put words in your mouth.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Edward Mountain

So, it is all about buy-in.

On that note, I suspend the meeting. We will reconvene at 11.10.

11:03 Meeting suspended.  

11:11 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 4, Against 0, Abstentions 2. The proposal is agreed to.

12:00  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Is the committee happy for some of the questions that I have raised regarding calibres, financial matters and alternatives to be put to the Scottish Government so that we can get a response?

Bob, I see that you want to come back in on that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Edward Mountain

My answer would be that I would let the clerks draft the letter, and I would be very happy to share the draft with Michael Matheson once I am happy with it. In accordance with the way in which I generally respond to these things, I will do so without fear or favour to myself and ensure that we have got it right.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 35th meeting in 2025 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. Our first item of business is a decision on taking agenda items 4, 5 and 6 in private. Item 4 is consideration of evidence on the draft climate change plan; item 5 is consideration of a draft letter to the Scottish Government on pre-budget scrutiny; and item 6 is consideration of our work programme. Do we agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I should have said right at the beginning of the meeting that we have received apologies from Mark Ruskell, who is unable to attend today.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I would like to clarify something, as the issues that you have raised are pretty fundamental to the situation that we find ourselves in. Three other committees have agreed to undertake specific bits of work to support the work that we are doing. However, as you said, we have limited time, as the Parliament has to have finished its consultation by 5 March, which means that it is likely that we will be considering our report before we have seen the summary of responses to the Government’s consultation, given that that is likely to be released in early February. On behalf of the committee, I have made our concerns clear in that regard.

Unless I have got my maths entirely wrong—which is quite likely considering my inability to do maths properly, as my mother would say—we will have about nine sitting days after we submit our response in which we can consider the draft plan, which will have been amended to become the final plan. We are exactly where you said we were going to be. To me, that is of huge concern. I am sure that scrutiny will suffer because of the tight timescale.

I just wanted to clarify that work is being done by other committees, and that we remain concerned about the situation.

Sorry for interrupting you—or had you come to a logical end?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Edward Mountain

That is absolutely right and fair. The point you have made about small-calibre bullets relates to such small calibres as .22, where there is no alternative. I think that most people would accept that .243 becoming, or remaining, a suitable calibre for red deer is questionable. You would have to go up to a .270, probably with a 95 to 100-grain bullet as a minimum, because a .243 would not have the effective knock-down capacity.

I certainly take your point, Bob. I do have experience of actually doing this, and I am just trying to get that on the record.