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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

We will write to the Government on the effect of the instruments.

We now move into private session.

11:06 Meeting continued in private until 12:28.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Adapting to the Impacts of Climate Change

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

As you know, a lot of the air-source heat pumps that are needed are driven by electricity, and my concern is that the price of electricity remains stubbornly high. It might cost someone £17,000 to have a heat pump installed in their house, and they might still have massive electricity bills. Is that a stumbling block?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

We will write to the Scottish Government to that effect.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

We move on to the second consent notification relating to a proposed UK statutory instrument. The UK SI would add a number of mercury-added products—so-called MAPs—to an effectively banned list. The UK and Scottish Governments consider that doing that fulfils our international obligations on mercury.

As before, the committee’s role is to decide whether it agrees with the Scottish Government about that. We can express a view both on whether we agree in principle to the UK Government legislating in the area and on whether we agree to the specific manner in which it proposes to do so. If we are content for consent to be given, I will write accordingly to the Scottish Government. We have options to draw matters to the attention of the Scottish Government if we want to do so. If the committee is not content, we can make one of the recommendations as outlined in the clerk’s note.

Does any member have a view on the issue?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Adapting to the Impacts of Climate Change

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Mark Ruskell got the last question. There are no further questions. Thank you very much for offering to come this morning to answer questions as we build up to our scrutiny of the draft climate change plan that has been laid.

I will suspend the meeting until 10:50. I ask committee members to be back here at 10:45, because there is a matter that I would like to address before we go into public session. Thank you.

10:34 Meeting suspended.  

11:00 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

As no one has any comments on the instrument, does the committee agree that it does not wish to make any recommendations on it?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Adapting to the Impacts of Climate Change

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Before I ask my own question, I remind members that I have a farming business in Speyside and have an interest in the River Spey.

You have talked about new infrastructure and what we need to do to plan for the future. Surely we need to look back at the old infrastructure as well. Kevin Stewart has just mentioned water shortages on the Dee, which raises an interesting point. This year, the River Spey was at a level where no distillery below the Carron bridge could abstract any water from it and they all shut down, which had a major economic impact on local communities. At the same time, water was being abstracted from the headwaters of the Spey to go down to the Lochy to turn electricity generators, and also down to the Tay to help with the water shortage there, all while we in Speyside were suffering.

Is looking back at the old projects that were set up in the 1950s—which might have seemed right at that time, when there were more sustainable harvests, but are not now—as important as looking at shiny new infrastructure projects, to ensure that everyone has what they need?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the 33rd meeting in 2025 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. I welcome to the meeting Sarah Boyack, who is attending as a substitute member for Monica Lennon for consideration of the Ecocide (Scotland) Bill. Under rule 9.13A of our standing orders, Monica Lennon is not entitled to exercise the rights of a committee member in relation to the bill, because she is the member in charge of the bill. That means that she cannot participate as a committee member in any item of business that relates to the bill. However, as we can see, Monica is present for the evidence session and, as is the case with all other members of the Scottish Parliament when they attend a committee, she will be entitled to ask some questions at the end of the session.

I would like to make everyone aware that, at an appropriate moment after 10:50, I will pause the meeting to allow members to observe the armistice day two-minute silence in the garden lobby. I have said to the witnesses that I will escort them to the event if they are here at that time and would like to attend.

Under our first item of business, do committee members agree to take in private item 3, which is consideration of the evidence that we will have heard earlier in the meeting on the Ecocide (Scotland) Bill, including consideration of our approach to further scrutiny at stage 1?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I will bring in Iain Batho, followed by Rachael Weir and Murdo MacLeod. That will put them out of the pain of waiting.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Douglas Lumsden has a supplementary question.