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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Edward Mountain

The answer that one could give is that, if a track was built through an area of peatland that was a site of special scientific interest and a special protection area and was then left for five years, the drainage that would occur as a result of that track being put in would affect not only the small area of the track; it would probably affect quadruple the area to either side of it. Therefore, I am wondering whether that should be covered in the bill.

I am sorry, Sarah.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Rachael, do you want to come in?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Well, I am trying to find that out. I am not sure that I understand.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay. Sarah Boyack will ask the next questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I will have to do some research on when the last prosecution for treason was. I am sure that Murdo is right. That was an interesting example to mention.

On that note, thank you very much for all the evidence that you have given this morning. It has been a helpful session that will help us with our stage 1 consideration.

I now suspend the meeting until 11:10, at the earliest, to allow members to take part in the armistice day service downstairs.

10:47 Meeting suspended.  

11:13 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I should have said at the outset, thank you very much for attending. It is 20 past 10 at night, your time.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Can you direct that to one person? We cannot hear from everyone, given the timeframe.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Edward Mountain

You do not have any volunteers.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I will ask my next question. We have heard from our witnesses on the bill that we have fairly strong legislation in the Regulatory Reform (Scotland) Act 2014, and there has been some suggestion that adjusting the penalties in the 2014 act might achieve as much as the bill. Do countries that are looking to introduce legislation on ecocide already have legislation that is as strong as ours clearly is, or are they starting with a blank bit of paper? Who would like to answer that?

If you all look away, I will have to nominate somebody. If you are remote and want to answer, just raise your hand. You have all looked away, so Rachel, do you want to have a go at answering?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you, Rachel, but it is the question that I asked, so I will go to Ricardo.