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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 January 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Kevin Anderson has been waiting patiently.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

A bit like Lloyd Austin, your use of punctuation there was good.

Kevin Anderson, do you want to come in?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

We will move into private for about half an hour before we hear from the first panel of witnesses.

08:31 Meeting continued in private.  

09:02 Meeting continued in public.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

I will ask the other witnesses to reflect on the point that you have made. Those with memories of this Parliament will know that, just before the previous election, a climate change plan was produced that included some headline-grabbing targets, but those targets proved to be unachievable. We are now in a similar situation in that we will be considering the draft climate change plan in the dying days of this session of Parliament, just before dissolution and the election. We could have been considering it in 2023, but the Government decided to delay its publication.

James Curran, when you are reflecting on what has changed, could you say whether you are concerned about where we are at? I am certainly concerned.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

No, but I am interested in whether you have fears, given that you gave evidence in 2017 and since then, that we are in the last three months of this parliamentary session, having had a little break for Christmas, and are still trying to find our way through the plan. Does that concern you?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

I think that we will have a month, once the consultation has finished, to find out.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

I have a quick question. Some hauliers that I have visited say that they just cannot make electric HGVs work for them because, by the time that the lorry has come in and recharged, it could have been out and done another six or seven hours of work. However, it has sat there recharging. Those hauliers do not have flexibility to allow for that. Are we ever going to get round that in the short term? I will bring in Andy Poole on that.

12:00  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay. Thank you.

Monica, I am afraid we are almost out of time in this session. I want to ask one very simple question, which should elicit a yes, no or don’t know answer. Is this a good draft climate change plan? I will come to Lloyd Austin first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

We will see. The deputy convener has some questions. Over to you, Michael Matheson.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay, so on reaching the target of 24,000, my maths would suggest to me that we are about 18 years away on that rate of getting the chargers. Is that about right?