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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Okay, I have a few questions as a result of that answer. Last week, I went on an interesting visit, on behalf of the committee, to the hydrogen works building at Heriot-Watt University. Some of the things that you have said this morning echo exactly what those there said. They said that private investment is needed and that it appears that private investment is available. They also said that some of the problems with hydrogen in future are related to grid connection. My question to you, cabinet secretary, is about the option agreement that you have made with ScotWind. How much of the energy—the electricity that ScotWind generates offshore—have you stipulated should go into electrolysers and not into the national grid, to allow hydrogen to be developed in Scotland?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

There is an opportunity to put a stipulation in the option agreement, but that has not yet been exercised. The option agreement is for a project that is significantly far in the future to allow the energy to catch up, or to provide power for the offshore electrolysis of hydrogen.

I got a clear message on behalf of the committee that the Scottish Government can kick-start private investment by making sure that the incentive to do it is there. That can be done by ensuring that a percentage of the power goes to hydrogen and not purely to the national grid. Power does not have to go straight to the national grid from offshore. It can go onshore through different supply routes to electrolysis plants.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much, Jackie.

Douglas Lumsden has a question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I will say, on behalf of the committee, that it is outwith your funding responsibility. However, you mentioned just transition in your opening speech, so there is obviously confusion on that point.

Douglas, do you have any other questions?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I am sorry; that is slightly outside the budget scrutiny, but I will allow you to come back on it briefly.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Mr Lumsden, we have taken that as far as I am going to allow you to take it in this session.

I have a couple of questions. As no member has anything else to say, I will go straight to those.

Mr Gray, how much have you put aside for paying for hulls 801 and 802 next year?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Is that all that will come out? Are you confident that at the meeting, which I think will take place at the end of this week, the Government will not be asked for more money?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

It would be very helpful for the committee to have those figures after the meeting so that we can understand them, including all the costs that were pumped into the yard to keep it open.

How much are you giving to the yard this budget year to allow it to compete for further contracts, or will it just get the £42.5 million and then you will cut it loose?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I think that the yard asked for £25 million and the business case was not justified, so you did not give it that—that was my understanding.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Is there any money in the budget for the yard, or is that just something that you are going to draw down from ScotWind?