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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I know that two more members want to ask questions. Because Graham Simpson was so—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Although Graham was so concise in his questions, we have still run out of time, so I will ask the two members concerned if we could submit those questions to the cabinet secretary in writing. I am afraid that we are now out of time for this evidence session.

I thank you and your officials, cabinet secretary. I think you have been here for nearly three hours of questioning—it has been quite a long session. Thank you for being here.

That concludes the public part of our meeting.

12:20 Meeting continued in private until 12:29.  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

As we found out with the 400kV electricity line that went through it, there will be pressure in relation to the national park.

You mentioned the importance of sharing risk. On the AWPR and the Dalraddy to Kincraig sections of the A9 that I saw being built in the previous session of Parliament, there was huge risk to contractors, so many—as we know—dropped out and would not take part in the construction. Will the first test of whether the industry believes that Transport Scotland is really sharing the risk be when the first problem comes up on the A9 and there is a massive increase in cost, which is bound to happen on some sections?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Convener, may I ask a final brief question?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

It would be brilliant. [Laughter.]

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Yes, it is from the Edward committee. I have no land next to the A9.

Grahame, I want to go back to the comment that you made about statutory processes. There were issues with the Aberdeen western peripheral route. No prior work was done relating to some of the infrastructure adjacent to it and we had huge delays because gas pipelines and electricity lines were discovered.

I was a surveyor for 15 years, so I know that the compulsory purchase process is fairly straightforward. On the A9, the process is probably the easiest one in the world to do, because there are not many landowners along it until Dunkeld. Why is the statutory process holding up the project, despite there being few landowners and infrastructure assets running along the edge of the A9 that could be affected?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Looking at those schemes, I can see that the Dalraddy to Kincraig section, which may have opened on budget, was certainly not on time. It was opened on the right day and then closed for another three months. In addition, the contractor on the AWPR said that it ended up losing money because there were extra costs. Do you think that that put contractors off looking at the A9 again until you came up with this new contract?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Earlier, Roy made a comment about there being 300 landowners; that is over 80 miles of road on the A9. It is probably every compulsory purchase practitioner’s dream that there are so few, because that makes it relatively simple.

I will turn to the future, because I want to push on something that the convener mentioned, if I may. Alison Irvine, you suggested having a David Climie equivalent for the A9 work. The A9 project will cost £3.7 billion, according to Government figures. It could well increase—the cost is based on 2023 figures—by the time that it is finished in 2024. That is probably going to be closer to £4.5 billion. Are you going to have an overall supremo, making sure that all of that project works and that we get it done? I would say that, with its current staff, that is clearly outwith Transport Scotland’s ability.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

In relation to that point, are the capacity issues that you have just identified the major consideration in delivery of the project by 2035, or do you believe that, notwithstanding those capacity issues, 2035 ought to be an achievable date?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Grahame Barn mentioned spawning, which relates to salmon. The A9 is next to the bottom part of the River Spey, and I have a wild salmon fishery on the river, so I have an interest in relation to salmon that is not particularly relevant, but I wanted to make that clear.