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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you, Jackie. Before we leave the subject, I want to check something with the cabinet secretary. You have indicated that the £250 million will be spent at the end of the 10-year period. Will we have achieved all the restoration that was programmed for that £250 million, or will the money be gone without us reaching the target?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you, cabinet secretary. Before we move on, I will make a declaration of interests. I have an interest in a family farming partnership. I also have an interest in a wild fishery.

I have an interest in trees. However, I have not received any planting grant in the past 10 years and, as I said last week, I have no intention of applying for a planting grant in the foreseeable future. I put that on record so that people understand that I have an interest in land.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I think that we are back in action.

Mairi Gougeon, can you hear me? Can you say a few words to make sure that I am happy that I can hear you?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I have a question, before we leave the forestry planting issue. The Government has long signalled its intention to plant more and more trees—since 2016, when I was elected. However, since then, we have met the planting targets in only two years. In fact, we are 17,600 hectares behind where we should be. There is an industry out there that has grown all the trees, based on the Government’s planting targets, and it now appears, from reports, to be the case that the trees will be pulped and destroyed because they cannot be planted due to a shortfall in the planting grant. What is your message to that industry, Ms Gougeon?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I hear what you are saying. My concern is that the forestry industry is not like a tap—you cannot turn it on and off when you want to. A huge amount of preparation goes into reaching your goals, so they need to be long-term goals, otherwise we will never achieve them. Maybe we agree on that; I see you nodding. I am sure that you will be working on what was done by Mr Mackinnon on the forestry report to make it easier, rather than more difficult, to plant trees, which might give the industry some confidence.

The next question comes from the deputy convener, Ben Macpherson.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I am sorry, Mairi Gougeon, but Màiri McAllan is going to answer that. She beat you to the button, so she will go first, then you will get a chance to come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Edward Mountain

November is quite tight, if we are to scrutinise the plan within the time period that is given before it goes back to the Parliament. I would hope that this committee might get it before November, having looked forward to getting it before Christmas. What I am trying to work out is whether the figures of the actual costs that are needed to achieve the targets will be in the climate change plan.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I am asking about the cash that is needed to achieve the targets. We are on money today.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Edward Mountain

So the figures will be in the plan, and we will get it no later than November—much earlier, we hope.

Monica Lennon has some questions before I end this session with both cabinet secretaries.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Cabinet secretary, do you want to agree with Mr Doris?