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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

It might be helpful to you, Michael, but I am still totally confused as to who is doing what. SEPA and Scottish Water—which will, no doubt, be reviewing this evidence session—might want to pass comment on the information that we have just heard, because I am sorry to say that I remain confused.

I will come to Mark Ruskell for a question, but before you leave the topic of water and go on to something else, I would like a follow-up. You go ahead with your question first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

If we look ahead at some of the areas in which you will have to do more work next year, I take it that resources are fine—that there is plenty of money and you are not stuck for staff to make that work.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

I want to come back with a couple of other questions, if I may. On the climate change plan, you say in paragraph 6 of your letter that it is really important that all the departments speak to each other and that there is a clear plan across the

“Government, public bodies and local authorities”.

That is a huge amount to ask for before September, is it not? Will the plan cascade all of that down?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

Agenda item 2 is consideration of a draft statutory instrument. The current regulations were laid on 27 February and concern regulation of various activities by the Scottish Environment Protection Agency. These regulations are very similar to regulations that were laid on 27 November last year, which were withdrawn on 9 December at the request of this committee to allow additional time for scrutiny. Again, I thank the Government for doing that; it has made for better scrutiny.

The clerk’s paper notes the evidence that we have heard on the matter. The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee has made no formal recommendations on the regulations. It has noted that issues that it raised about previous regulations have been addressed in the new regulations.

I welcome to the meeting Gillian Martin, Acting Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy, and her supporting officials: Carolyn Boyd, solicitor, Scottish Government legal directorate; Gary Gray, senior policy adviser, Scottish Government environment and forestry directorate; and Phil Leeks, senior policy manager, Scottish Government environment and forestry directorate.

The instrument is laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that it cannot come into force until the Parliament approves it. Following this evidence session, the committee will be invited to consider a motion to recommend that the instrument be approved. I remind everyone that the Scottish Government officials can speak under this item but not in the debate that follows.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make a brief opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

So Phil cannot come to the cabinet secretary’s rescue.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 12th meeting in 2025 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. The first item of business is a decision on whether to take item 5—consideration of the evidence that we will hear from Environmental Standards Scotland—in private. Are we all agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

The effectiveness of a tiered regime is all down to people knowing and understanding the general binding rules, so that they can comply with them. Are you going to publicise those? How will you make them known? For example, I did not know that there were general binding rules on matters such as hot tubs. How will typical small businesses and households become aware of them? I do not have a hot tub, but, if I did, and there were rules regarding it, how would you let me know?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

I am sure that those people with hot tubs will be rushing to find out what the general binding rules are for them, but my question is a serious one. Have you allowed for some money to advertise the changes and to promulgate them to people who might not necessarily pick up on them? For example, someone with a small holiday let might not know about regulations on hot tubs. What money has been put aside to make sure that everyone understands the GBRs? If they do not, the tiered system will not work.

Meeting of the Parliament

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests in that I am part of a family farm in Moray.

Does the minister regret that, when Fergus Ewing was the cabinet secretary, he did not scrap the £178 million failed system and implement a new system that was estimated to cost £34 million? Would that not have saved the minister the extraordinary amount of money that he has had to pay in the past 10 years?

Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Edward Mountain

Rumbustious.