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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 1 April 2025
Edward Mountain
Welcome back to the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. Our third item of business is consideration of petition PE2123, which was submitted by Asthma and Lung UK Scotland. The petition asks the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to amend the Air Quality Standards (Scotland) Regulations 2010 by setting new limits for nitrogen dioxide and fine particulate matter in order to align with the World Health Organization’s 2021 air quality guidelines.
We are dealing with the petition for the first time, but we have conducted wider work on air quality in this parliamentary session, including on the issue of alignment with the 2021 guidelines. We also touched on the issue in recent evidence sessions with SEPA and ESS.
I draw members’ attention to the meeting papers, and specifically to paper 3, which sets out some options for further scrutiny. We have the option of closing the petition if we consider it appropriate to do so. Does any member wish to express any views?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 1 April 2025
Edward Mountain
I think that the deputy convener’s suggestion was to find out what the Government is doing first, and then consider the best way to respond to that, for example, through having an evidence session, as Mark Ruskell and Monica Lennon suggested. All of that is slightly dependent on our work programme discussion, which comes later on in our agenda.
Douglas is looking at me as though he would like to say something.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 1 April 2025
Edward Mountain
The deputy convener has some questions.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 1 April 2025
Edward Mountain
Alex Plant is very patiently waiting to come in.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 1 April 2025
Edward Mountain
Our second item of business is an evidence-taking session with Scottish Water. We will consider Scottish Water’s latest annual report and accounts, and the session also gives us an opportunity to have a much wider-ranging discussion about its main challenges and priorities.
I welcome from Scottish Water Deirdre Michie, chair; Alex Plant, chief executive; Peter Farrer, chief operating officer; and Professor Simon Parsons, director of environment, planning and assurance. Before we move to questions, Deirdre Michie wants to make an opening statement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 1 April 2025
Edward Mountain
Sorry, I will bring Peter Farrer in, and then the other members who want to ask questions along this line. I am very conscious—as I know that Monica Lennon is—that we need to get to the bottom of this, but we are not going to solve the pay dispute in the committee room. We are interested in the generalities of it.
I will go to Peter, and then Douglas Lumsden, Mark Ruskell and Bob Doris, and we will see where we get to after that.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 1 April 2025
Edward Mountain
Sorry—I will come in here, because I think that Deirdre Michie needs to answer Monica Lennon’s question—
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 1 April 2025
Edward Mountain
Next, Michael Matheson has quite a detailed line of questioning. I remind everyone that we are running short of time, so short answers to Michael’s very short questions will be very much appreciated. That is a tip to both sides, by the way.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 1 April 2025
Edward Mountain
Good morning, and welcome to the 13th meeting in 2025 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.
Agenda item 1 is a decision on taking business in private. Does the committee agree to take in private item 4, which is consideration of the evidence that we will take from Scottish Water, and item 5, which is consideration of the committee’s work programme?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 1 April 2025
Edward Mountain
There are other committee members who want to ask questions. I say that because we are out of time—you can each have literally two questions, and they have to be quick-fire, because I want one at the end. [Laughter.] I have been very quiet all the way through the meeting, if the truth be known.
Monica Lennon can go first, followed by Douglas Lumsden and then Mark Ruskell.