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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 January 2025
Edward Mountain
Our second item of business is an evidence session on the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill. Today, we will hear from landowners, including community landowners, on part 1 of the bill.
Before we do that, I will make a declaration of interests. I remind everyone that I have an interest in a farming partnership in Moray, as is set out in my entry in the register of interests. Specifically, I declare that I own approximately 500 acres of farmed land, about 50 acres of which is woodland. I am also a tenant of approximately 500 acres in Moray under a non-agricultural tenancy, and I have another farming tenancy under the Agricultural Holdings (Scotland) Act 1991. In addition, I declare that I sometimes take on grass lets on an annual basis. I should probably also make it clear that, having been a surveyor in Inverness for about 14 years, I have come across two of the witnesses—Andrew Howard and Tim Kirkwood—before. In Tim Kirkwood’s case, I was sitting on the opposite side of the table in various negotiations.
I welcome to the committee Laura Hamlet, who is chief executive of the Coigach Community Development Company; Andrew Howard, who is managing director of Moray Estates; Tim Kirkwood, who is the chief executive of Wildland; Megan MacInnes, who is the local development manager, Applecross Community Company; Dannie Onn, who is the director and chair of the Colonsay Community Development Company; and Dennis Overton, who is the chair of the Ardtornish Estate Company. I also welcome Rhoda Grant, who has joined us for today’s meeting and who will get to ask some questions at the end. Thank you all for attending, whether virtually or in person.
I will start off with an easy question, which I hope that you will be able to give me simple answers to. I will work along the table, before moving down on to the screen in front of me. I will start with Andrew Howard. Could you set the scene with regard to how you are involved in interests in land? You can be brief—I do not need a whole chapter.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 January 2025
Edward Mountain
How many hectares do you have, roughly?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 January 2025
Edward Mountain
Briefly.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 January 2025
Edward Mountain
Sorry—I understand that. I thought that it was the Government that was clarifying what it thought should be in a land management plan. You are saying that it was somebody from your team.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 January 2025
Edward Mountain
Laura, will you estimate the cost of the time that you and the board spend carrying out community consultation? Do you spend 90 per cent of your time on that, or 50 per cent? What is the cost of that? If you do not know the answer straight off, I am happy for you to come back to us with a written answer. I would put the same question to Megan MacInnes and Dannie Onn. You can either answer on the hoof or think about it a bit and write to us.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 January 2025
Edward Mountain
Dannie, do you want to do that, too?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 January 2025
Edward Mountain
Thank you. I will suspend the meeting until 5 past 11 to allow people to stretch their legs before we go on to the final run of questions.
10:57 Meeting suspended.Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 January 2025
Edward Mountain
Welcome back. The next questions will come from the deputy convener, Michael Matheson.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 January 2025
Edward Mountain
Rhoda, we now come to you. You have been waiting very patiently.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 January 2025
Edward Mountain
That is an on-the-fence answer.