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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

I hope that the information will not be critical to your making a decision on the next item. Minister, it would be helpful just to have those details clarified afterwards so that we have a record of them.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

It sounds like the more shoulders you spread it over the smaller the cost is.

On that note, as committee members do not want to say anything else, we will move on to agenda item 3, which ?is to debate the motion calling for the committee to recommend approval of the draft Renewables Obligation (Scotland) Amendment Order 2024. Minister, you have spoken to the amendment order, but I will give you another chance to speak to it if you would like to.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

[Interruption.] I want to know whether there are any other members—

I am sorry; the clerk is entirely right. You need to move the motion, minister.

Motion moved,

That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the Renewables Obligation (Scotland) Amendment Order 2024 [draft] be approved.—[Gillian Martin]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

The committee will report on the outcome of the instrument in due course. I ask the committee to delegate authority to the deputy convener to finalise the report for publication. Is the committee happy to do that?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

That is good. Thank you, minister, and thank you to your officials for attending.

09:40 Meeting suspended.  

09:45 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Okay. So you are saying that the worst-case scenario is that the Glen Sannox could cost another £7 million.

I am slightly concerned by your reference to the middle of June. My understanding is that Caledonian MacBrayne have employed crews since 2020—a captain and some officers—but they are still going to take 10 weeks to run through what they need to run through. If the handover is in the middle of June, my maths suggest that the earliest that 801 could come into service would be September, just in time to have missed the summer rush. Am I way off mark on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Well, my understanding is that that was the original specification.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Okay. I am slightly concerned, because it was those specifications for the vehicles and the passengers that drove the overall length of the ship at 102m, the weight at 900 tonnes, and the demand for 6.5 knots. It appears to me that, if you change all of that, you might have changed the whole spec of the ship, which to me then raises questions about the whole process of tendering.

I understand that you have to respond to issues, but we are getting a more expensive boat with fewer passengers, fewer cars and fewer lorries on it, and it is still as big as the original size. There are so many moving parts in there—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

I accept that fully—there might not always be 127 cars. However, the maximum that was wanted in the original spec was 1,000 passengers, 127 cars and 16 lorries. If we do not have the ability to have that in any permutation as far as passengers are concerned and if we are limited with regard to cars, too, islanders might feel a little bit peeved.

I will come back with more questions at the end of the session. Lots of other committee members want to ask questions, and I will start with Sarah Boyack.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

You are being very circumspect, and I am going to press you slightly. Do you think that because the yard was in receivership, contractors had the ability to call the shots, rather than Tim Hair?