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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

My concern is that the original tender documents that went out to all the yards specified, as you rightly say, up to 1,000 passengers. Some of the bid returns were for ferries with fewer passengers and vehicles, and they would have been built more cheaply and more quickly, but we are now in a situation where things are taking considerably longer and costing considerably more money, and we have fewer passengers, potentially fewer cars and potentially fewer HGVs. If I were an islander, I would be pretty angsty about that. Would you not be?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

When 802 is handed over, you will be responsible for 12 months’ warranty.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

That speaks to the importance of keeping Ferguson Marine afloat. Otherwise, there would be no one to fulfil the warranty. Maybe that will be more expensive. Anyway, on that happy note, we will move on to some questions from Mark Ruskell.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Is your underlying message that, if the Government does not invest in those items, you will not be as cheap as other people are in respect of building small ferries? Have I completely misunderstood that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you. That is what I was after.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you, Graham. You are a very disruptive influence on the committee because, subsequent to your questions, there is a whole heap of members who want to ask more questions; I do not know whether or not I welcome your attendance.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

I am suggesting politely that you might want to think carefully about the questions that you are asking.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

My understanding, Mr Doris, and I am pretty sure that I am correct, is that the original specification that was put out to tender was for 1,000 passengers, 127 cars and 16 lorries. It might have been changed subject to tender, but that was in the original tender documents that were submitted.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

You went through a huge learning process. I want to understand whether the client—CMAL—went through a huge learning process as well. It appears that, over the period from the original award of the contract to 2020, CMAL’s learning experience was fairly limited, or was it not involved?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Not only were CMAL representatives on site, but its headquarters are less than 600m away, so it was only a brisk walk away, surely, if an issue was identified.