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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 14th meeting in 2025 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.

Our first item of business is a decision on taking business in private. Does the committee agree to take in private item 4, which is consideration of the evidence that we will hear on Scotland’s train and bus services, and item 5, which is consideration of our approach to a legislative consent memorandum on the Planning and Infrastructure Bill?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

I want to come back to Greig MacKay. The service works well for someone who is travelling between Edinburgh and Glasgow, but someone who is going to Edinburgh from Wick, for example, has to rely on their first bus meeting the next bus, and that bus meeting the next bus, which is the one that actually takes them to Edinburgh, all within a timescale that suits them. If we cannot make all the buses work together, the system will not work. It will work for people going from Edinburgh to Glasgow—that is simple—but do you agree that there is an issue on the more rural and exposed routes?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

I will bring Kevin Stewart in briefly. Kevin, please direct your question to one person, because we would like to get to the other two witnesses.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

That neatly brings us to the end of this witness session. I thank the witnesses for giving evidence and for travelling here on various modes of transport, from buses to trains—or, in Greig MacKay’s case, for participating remotely.

I suspend the meeting for five minutes to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

10:39 Meeting suspended.  

10:43 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Sue Webber wants to come in. Douglas’s approach was to ask multiple questions. I ask that you just put one.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

The second instrument for the committee to consider is SSI 2025/81. The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee has made no comment on the order. Do any members have any comments on the order?

The Cabinet Secretary for Transport has confirmed that no business regulatory impact assessment is necessary, as the order has no financial effects on the Scottish Government or local government. I assume that that is because it is part of a bigger scheme rather than just the smaller scheme, but it would always be helpful to have information on that.

As no member wishes to comment, I invite the committee to agree that it does not wish to make any recommendations in relation to the instrument.

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you. I now suspend the meeting to allow our first panel of witnesses to be seated.

09:21 Meeting suspended.  

09:23 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Welcome back. I also welcome Sue Webber, who is attending the meeting. You will get some questions at the end, Sue, if you want to come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

I suppose that one consolation is that we do not have floating bus stops, where you can get run over by the bicycle that is coming between you and the bus stop as you cross the road to get there.

Robert, do you want to comment?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Edward Mountain

Islay Jackson, do you want to add anything? Are you a bus user?