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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Edward Mountain
If you have any questions, we will bring you in at the end.
Item 3 is an evidence session on the state of Scotland’s rail and bus sectors. Today, we will hear from two panels. The first includes representatives from rail and bus passenger groups, and the second panel includes witnesses representing rail and bus sector staff. Next week, we will hear from bus and rail operators, companies and sector representatives.
I am pleased to welcome Greig MacKay, who is the Bus Users UK director for Scotland. Greig is joining us remotely. Islay Jackson MSYP is the deputy convener of the transport, environment and rural affairs committee of the Scottish Youth Parliament, and Robert Samson is senior engagement manager at Transport Focus.
We will move straight to questions. I will ask the first question, which is always a gentle warm-up for the panel. Do you perceive the continuing reduction in bus services as having any impact on passengers, especially those who are reliant on buses to access educational, work and social activities? Evidence from rural areas and areas where there are fewer buses would be useful.
Greig MacKay, will you start with that? We will check that the connection is working. I am told that a volunteer is as good as a pressed person, so off you go.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Edward Mountain
If you take £35 million out of the network support grant, it is not surprising that bus services in more rural and less commercial areas get cut—is that what you are saying?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Edward Mountain
Mark Ruskell, you wanted to come in, and Jackson Cullinane wants to come in as well. If you ask your supplementary question to Jackson first, he might be able to answer the two questions as one.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Edward Mountain
Michael, did you want to ask a question on hydrogen?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Edward Mountain
Kevin Stewart has a follow-up.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Edward Mountain
Before we go any further, Kevin Stewart, you asked the question that Mr Lumsden wanted to ask, so I will bring him in on hydrogen. We all need to be careful. We all want to ask questions all the time, but we cannot. Douglas, do you want to ask any questions on that issue?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Edward Mountain
Okay—fine. I do not want to hog the discussion, so we will move on to the next question, which comes from Mark Ruskell.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Edward Mountain
I accept that too, but my point is that it is costing Scotland £300 million a year more to run the railways than that cost under Abellio. It is costing more, the public performance measure target is further from being reached and fewer trains are running, so I am trying to understand why that is good for Scotland.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Edward Mountain
Jackson Cullinane, do you want to come in? Sorry for cutting off Kevin Lindsay, who wants to come in on that question, but I promised to bring in Jackson. I have to keep my promises, but then I will come to you, Kevin.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Edward Mountain
I certainly heard about integrated ticketing in 2016. I think that Stewart Stevenson, who had been a transport minister, brought it up.