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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 June 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 April 2024

Edward Mountain

You would know about the responsibilities of declarations of interests in the Parliament better than most other MSPs, convener.

To take my point to the next step, you are content that, if you chose to stand to be an MP as an MSP, you would resign. Your proposal would be that you would resign if you were elected as an MP and that you would not have to resign beforehand.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 April 2024

Edward Mountain

If an MSP stood for election to become an MP, you are content that, if they then became an MP, they would be given eight days in which to resign. I think that is the period that is being suggested.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 April 2024

Edward Mountain

They would not have to resign before the election.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Alistair Clark is kind of nodding.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Convener, I will leave it there—to stop it from going round and round—but I think that it needs a little clearer thought. If Covid taught us anything, it is to expect the unexpected. Some of the decisions that we made during Covid were fundamentally flawed from the point of view of democracy.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Okay. Thank you, convener. Those were just two simple questions, although I am sorry to have put Jackie Dunbar on the spot—not. [Laughter.]

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 April 2024

Edward Mountain

May I ask another question, convener?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Would the next person on a regional list step up, given that the list seats are allocated according to party vote share? We could not go back out and do the whole regional list again. I do have a real concern, though, that regional MSPs should be held to account just the same as constituency MSPs, and I do not know how you would do that.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 April 2024

Edward Mountain

On the mechanics of the unexpected happening unexpectedly, if I remember rightly, the EMB changed the rules during Covid to allow MSPs to remain in post right up until the day prior to the election, so that, if there was a crisis, we could come back and sit. If it is down to MSPs to make the decision, I point out that, if something happens once the Parliament has been dissolved, there will be no MSPs, but there will be ministers and cabinet secretaries, because they stay in post. How do we get around that? Does some thought need to be given to that issue? I am slightly concerned that the decision would sit with the Government, as it would be the only body with people still in their positions, and those of us who might have a different opinion would not be heard, because we would not exist.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 April 2024

Edward Mountain

I will push back slightly on that. I absolutely agree that MSPs remaining in post might present difficulties. My fear is about how votes would be weighted in an advisory committee. If the votes were weighted as they are in the Parliamentary Bureau, the decision would purely be down to the Government, so, if the Government had an absolute majority, the advisory committee would be a waste of time. Personally, I favour an outside organisation taking control, as Toby James sort of suggested. I will push you slightly to give an answer and then come back to Alistair Clark.