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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Tell me—because I was listening to that question—about the three councils that are mentioned. Shetland Islands Council, Dumfries and Galloway Council and the Strathclyde Partnership for Transport all asked for those powers—is that right? Did they come to you, or did you just tell them that you were giving them those powers?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Your policy note says:

“No BRIA is necessary as the instrument has no financial effects on the Scottish Government, local government or on business.”

Will taking on the powers have no cost?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Edward Mountain

What I take from that is that, if they exercise the powers, they will need money, but that has not been discussed. So I am not clear in my mind whether they asked for the powers or have just been given them.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Edward Mountain

With respect, we are straying a wee bit away from the provisions of the statutory instrument. Although that line of questioning is interesting, I am not sure that it is following completely on the lines of the instrument. I am happy to let you ask another question. It would be helpful for that to be specifically on the instrument.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Edward Mountain

You are straying. When Douglas Lumsden was speaking, he was on a slightly different runway—I feel that you may be on that same runway. I ask you to put a question to the minister.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Edward Mountain

I think that you have pushed that as far as you can. Maybe that is a hanging question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Edward Mountain

It was a nice try. Monica Lennon has a follow-up question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Good. Thank you, Monica. I think that we were in danger of going down a different rabbit hole. There will be questions that we will have to ask later.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Edward Mountain

The committee will report on the outcome of the instrument in due course. I invite the committee to delegate authority to me as convener to finalise the report for publication.

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Edward Mountain

The Scottish Parliament information centre gave us an explanation this morning, which is why we were slightly slow in getting to you. I would just remind you that, although I know that it is very easy for you, as a group, to talk about these things—because, I am sure, they are the focus of much of your attention—the committee had no knowledge of either term. I was the convener of the committee that considered the bill that became the 2019 act, but I was still scratching my head as to what they were, so it would have been helpful to have had further information. I will labour the point no more—I have made it, and I think that the minister has noted it.