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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I will clarify that, if she wants to, Clare Adamson can intervene by indicating in the normal way, and I will bring her in. However, she will be speaking next. I do not want to stifle debate, but, if Clare Adamson is happy with that, I will let the minister continue.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I turn to Maurice Golden to wind up, and to press or seek to withdraw amendment 1.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I hope that you take it in the way that it was meant.

My other point is on amendments 2 and 3, which have been lodged by Graham Simpson. They are interesting. The timescale that is set by amendment 2 is quite tight. Interestingly, we have the option of voting on amendment 2 before we vote on amendment 3. If amendment 2 fails, amendment 3 will have the opportunity to be passed. My problem, as a parliamentarian looking to the future, is that the timescale in the bill would mean that the issue that Graham Simpson is trying to address would not come up until May 2026, unless things go remarkably astray in May 2026, when there will be an election. The whole strategy would be launched after Parliament has gone into recess, which would mean a huge heap of problems in terms of allowing proper parliamentary scrutiny. Although I would love to turbocharge it, I think it is unrealistic to do so.

I would definitely support amendment 12 and the two-year period. If those fail, there are good grounds for using a period of 18 months to ensure that the Parliament can properly scrutinise legislation before it goes into recess for an election. Those are my views.

I am looking around to see whether there are other views: it appears that there are not, so I call the minister to make closing comments.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I call amendment 122, in the name of Ben Macpherson.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I see the minister nodding, so perhaps we can leave it at that. She is happy to engage. The committee gave the Government extra time to engage, but there was not a huge amount of extra time, so extra work will be required. I am sure that, by nodding, the minister was implying that she is happy to do that.

I go back to Bob Doris, who will speak to amendment 187 and other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Welcome back to our session on stage 2 of the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill. Amendment 1, in the name of Maurice Golden, is grouped with amendments 187, 188, 2, 3, 189, 80 and 190. I call Maurice Golden to move amendment 1 and speak to all the amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I call Graham Simpson to speak to amendment 2 and any other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)