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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 5, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 64 disagreed to.

Amendment 91 moved—[Douglas Lumsden].

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

The question is, that amendment 91 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Mark, I am sorry. It is up to Mr Golden whether he wants to take an intervention.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Very sadly, I will call a halt there, just as we were going to talk about littering from vehicles and civil penalties. I was about to get my moment in the sun. That will be something to look forward to next week.

I thank members and particularly the minister for our five hours of debate. It has been a marathon session. I think that the only person to mangle any of their speeches was me, when I mentioned people’s names. I apologise again for that.

Next week, we will start at 8.45 with a pre-brief for committee members. We will start the meeting and continue our discussion of stage 2 amendments at 9 o’clock. Once we finish that, we will have an evidence session with the Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy and we will consider our annual report.

I remind members of the important Scottish Parliament information centre seminar tomorrow morning, where the Climate Change Committee will lead a discussion on carbon budgeting. I am sure that everyone will find that interesting.

Meeting closed at 13:36.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 18th meeting in 2024 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.

Our only item of business this morning is day 3 of our stage 2 consideration of the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill. I welcome to the meeting Gillian Martin, the Minister for Climate Action, and her supporting officials. I also welcome Graham Simpson, and I think that other members might appear during the meeting.

At last week’s meeting, the committee ended day 2 consideration of the bill, having disposed of amendments to section 8 and having agreed to that section, so that is where we will start off. I do not want to curtail anyone’s contributions to the debates on any of the issues but, as always, time is against us. This is democracy, and it is important that everyone has their say, but I am just conscious of the situation. I am totally in the committee’s hands, though, and I have no ability to control the length of the meeting.

Section 9—Power to require imposition of charges for single-use items

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

We do have to give the member the right to speak, but I do not think, Mr Simpson, that we want to get into some situation where you are drawing attention to things. I am very happy for you to speak, and Mr Doris was conscious of allowing you to speak—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much, Ben. Douglas Lumsden wants to say something.

08:45  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Can I come in on that? I want to clarify this in my brain. What you are saying is that, in the case of the single-use coffee cup, the supplier of the coffee in the coffee cup will charge the purchaser of the coffee, and—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I am sorry, minister, but hold on. If I may, I will just finish the question. I am just trying to understand this.

You then equated the proposal to the single-use carrier bag charge, where suppliers voluntarily collect the money and give it to charities. Is that what you are suggesting? It seems that you started off by talking about the supplier of coffee cups, which could be China, but now you are saying that it is like the single-use carrier bag charge, and that the supplier might be asked to give some of that money to charity. I seek clarity, minister.

09:00  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I call Graham Simpson to wind up and press or withdraw amendment 24.