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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Douglas, is your question specifically on this matter? If not, I will take Bob Doris’s question next.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you, Jackie. I have a few questions, but I will make an observation first. Cabinet secretary, it was interesting that you said that disposable vapes are often used by people who are under age. I have certainly seen—I think that we all have—shops where disposable vapes are made attractive to children. I have also seen those shops selling ice creams to attract people. I know of one situation where ice creams were being sold with a disposable vape as a free gift on the side of it. It is quite evident that there is a problem. As long as the Government accepts that the regulations are not going to absolve it from preventing young people who should not be supplied vapes from getting them, I think that they are a step forward.

Is the definition flexible enough to allow future proofing? One of the issues that have been raised with us is the use of coils, but ceramic plates are now used in disposable vapes, and pod vapes are being used. Are you convinced that the legislation will prevent some clever person from getting past the definition of disposable vapes in the regulations?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

In relation to rechargeable and reusable vapes, vapes that allow one refill before becoming useless could be cheaper than ones that can be refilled numerous times. I do not know—I have never used them. I was a smoker, but I have never been attracted to vaping. How do we avoid that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

I do not know. All that I am saying is that, if you can get a vape with a cheap battery that can be recharged a couple of times or one with an expensive battery that can be recharged 20 times, for example—I do not know whether those figures are even relevant—the one that can be recharged 20 times will cost more than the cheap one that can be recharged a couple of times. I want to ensure that we do not just move to an intermediate stage at which people throw away something that meets the definition and is cheaper.

David McPhee wants to come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you, cabinet secretary. Jackie Dunbar has the first question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Would the deputy convener like to ask a question or make a statement? The cabinet secretary will get a chance to answer all the points that have been raised at the end of the debate—or during it, if she wants to.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Does anyone else have any comments?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Cabinet secretary, do you want to comment on anything that you have heard?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

The question is, that motion S6M-13568, in the name of Gillian Martin, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Motion agreed to,

That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the Environmental Protection (Single-use Vapes) (Scotland) Regulations 2024 [draft] be approved.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Welcome back. Agenda item 5 is consideration of another draft statutory instrument. I welcome Gillian Martin, the Acting Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy. She is joined by officials from the Scottish Government: Andrew Mackie, head of environment and forestry sponsorship hub; David McPhee, deputy director, circular economy; and Carolyn Boyd, a lawyer.

The instrument is laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that it cannot come into force unless the Parliament approves it. Following the evidence session, the committee will be invited, under the next agenda item, to consider a motion for the committee to recommend that the instrument be approved. I remind everyone that the Scottish Government officials will be able to speak under this item but not in the debate that follows.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make a short opening statement.