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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

I am asking about that from a parliamentary scrutiny point of view. I want to know what the period is so that, should the Government slow down for any reason, perhaps due to a slight hiccup, whoever scrutinises things will know that. Would it be fair to say that, for the first five-year carbon budget, the climate change plan must be released within two months of that budget having been set? Would that be too tight? Should it be three months?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

You are saying—correct me if I am wrong—that the climate change plan to achieve the first five-year carbon budget needs to be published at the same time as the budget is published. There can be a small delay, to allow us to see the way forward, but it cannot be delayed for a year. I want to include a date in the bill, to hold everyone to account. If you include a date, you can hold politicians to account.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Monica Lennon wants to come in, after which I will bring in Ben Macpherson.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

It is important. The issue is the timing of the climate change plan in relation to the first carbon budget and how that could—without putting words into your mouth—run slightly differently for subsequent carbon budgets because there is a bit more time.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

It would be good to see that in writing, so that we do not misquote you, because that would be a big mistake.

The next question comes from Douglas Lumsden.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

The deputy convener has some questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Before I come to Graeme Roy, I will say that the danger is that we set a budget that puts us ahead of anyone else, which means that we have to use cutting-edge technology to achieve it. My experience of cutting-edge technology is that it costs more, because only a few are using it at the start, and it invariably breaks down more quickly, than proven technology. Are you happy that we are to go on a different cycle, given all the moving parts that you mentioned?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Will you clarify something for me? Section 3(2), which is about laying the next climate change plan, proposes that that should happen

“as soon as practicable after the first regulations setting a Scottish carbon budget come into force”.

“As soon as possible”—that is a wonderful term.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Committee members never normally give up questions. Thank you. I think that Monica Lennon has some questions, unless those have been answered as well, but I do not think that they have.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Edward Mountain

You moved closer to the screen, Dr Nurse. Was that because you want to chip in?