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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Edward Mountain

I believe that Mark Ruskell had a question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you. The committee will report on the outcome of our consideration of the instrument in due course. I invite committee members to delegate authority to me as convener to approve the draft report for publication. Do members agree?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

Ben, I would suggest that Mowi will be doing budgets for the next 10 years, if it is like any other business, and I am trying to work out how long you are budgeting to have a mortality rate of 20 to 25 per cent at sea. I accept that the industry has made changes, and I was delighted to go to the Bakkafrost facility—I will put that on the record—to see the wonderful hatchery that it is developing at Kishorn. I was grateful for that visit and the knowledge that it gave me. I am trying. Try to answer my question, please, Ben.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

My next question is a general one about sea lice. I tend to agree with you; I do not think that sea lice are as much of a problem as they were, and I acknowledge that the industry has taken huge efforts to address that. However, people feel that there is a problem with you putting your smolts to sea when they are at their most vulnerable—when they are young and their skin is changing—after your having vaccinated them and treated them in preparation for going to sea, The problem is that people who represent wild fish interests might feel that they do not know whether the wild smolts that go past fish farms are affected by sea lice, because no one knows what happens to them—they disappear into the wild blue yonder. Do you think that it would be a good thing for the industry to work with organisations that represent those interests to try to iron out that lack of knowledge?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

I think that we do learn some things from tracking projects. David Brown would probably reflect that there are wild salmon near Shetland, because some salmon go up past there on their way north.

Tavish, if I may, I note that, when you came into the meeting, you were quite aggressive to the members who challenged you on a particular point. Do you think that it is right for people to have an ability to challenge you and to question whether what the industry is doing is right? You were pretty forceful against them.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

I remind the committee that my interest in salmon fishing on the River Spey is declared in my entry in the register of members’ interests. The fishery employs three people and has been in the family ownership for more than 73 years. I do not believe that it is directly affected by fish farms, because it is on the east coast of Scotland, not the west coast, where most fish farms are located.

09:15  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

Ah, finally. I thought that I would have to ask all my questions when Tavish Scott was out of the room, convener. I am glad that he is back because he is going to get some of them.

Ben Hadfield, I would like to take you back mentally to 2 May 2018—I cannot take you back physically. I have no doubt that you will have looked back on that date, because you were in a meeting of the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee with Scott Landsburgh, talking about salmon farming. I think that Scott said that it was a “difficult and challenging” environment but that it was getting better. To paraphrase your words, Ben, I think that you said that there was a “perfect storm” of mortality, increased temperature and resistance to medication but that mortality would decrease at sea and that you would get it to below 5 per cent. Was that wishful thinking? If it was not wishful thinking, for how long are we going to be sitting at between 20 and 25 per cent mortality at sea?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

That is helpful. So, are you are saying that, in 10 years, we should be down to a mortality rate of about 15 per cent? Do not get me wrong, I know that no one wants to lose a fish—I am a farmer. I do not want to lose a calf or any animal, and I understand the care that goes into doing those things, because it also affects your bottom line.

12:30  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

In my mind, the bit that we do not know about is whether, when the wild smolts travel out to sea and are in the coastal range before they travel beyond that, they would be clear of sea lice.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Edward Mountain

It was not taped—it was recorded by hand.