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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Edward Mountain
The question is, that amendment 173 be agreed to. Are we agreed?
Members: No.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Edward Mountain
There will be a division.
For
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Against
Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Edward Mountain
The result of the division is: For 2, Against 5, Abstentions 0.
Amendment 173 disagreed to.
Section 4, as amended, agreed to.
After section 4
Amendment 174 moved—[Mercedes Villalba].
Amendment 174A moved—[Mercedes Villalba].
10:45Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Edward Mountain
There will be a division.
For
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Against
Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Edward Mountain
There will be a division.
For
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Against
Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Edward Mountain
The result of the division is: For 2, Against 5, Abstentions 0.
Amendment 174 disagreed to.
Amendment 364 moved—[Douglas Lumsden].
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Edward Mountain
Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. I call Douglas Lumsden to wind up and indicate whether he wishes to press or withdraw amendment 371.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Edward Mountain
I always think that when looking at legislation, what it is called is what it is attempting to do. We are talking about grouse moor licensing, and the amendment seeks to take things well beyond that. In fact, the application in amendment 374 talks about land that is
“within the ownership or occupation of the applicant, that is contiguous”
and
“where either management activities related to the killing or taking of the that bird could take place”.
Those could be miles apart. They could be in the north of Scotland—they could be in Caithness; they could be on land that is well away. The amendments that have been made to the 2024 act to include only areas where grouse are killed is the correct definition of grouse moor licences. I cannot support amendment 374 for that simple reason, but I am sure that the cabinet secretary will have a view.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Edward Mountain
The result of the division is: For 1, Against 5, Abstentions 1.
Amendment 371 disagreed to.
Amendment 372 moved—[Douglas Lumsden].
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Edward Mountain
The question is, that amendment 372 be agreed to. Are we agreed?
Members: No.