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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

When the Government made its statement the other day, it said that Ferguson’s could not be in a position in which it had to rely on Government contracts and that it also had to have contracts from elsewhere. You are fairly committed to the Government for the five years. Do you fear that, when those vessels are all built, you will come to a bit of a cliff edge, a bit like you did with the Glen Sannox and the Glen Rosa, because you will not have anything else?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

When do you expect the first payment to be made?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

David, when you have been before the committee in the past, we have talked about non-recoverable costs.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

It is just £500,000 a month to cover wage bills, electricity bills, rates bills and all the rest of it. All of that comes to only half a million.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

Let us imagine that the Glen Rosa was not there and that you did not get the contract. What would the underrecovery be? What is it actually costing?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

Okay. Those are all the questions that we have.

I will reiterate what Bob Doris said: I, too, want Ferguson Marine to be successful. However, you will excuse me if I am sceptical, because I have heard the same story from Clyde Blowers, Tim Hair, David Tydeman and now Graeme Thomson—the stories are all the same. I do hope that once I am retired—or, I should say, once I am working at home, as I will not be allowed to retire—I will see the Glen Rosa get delivered at the end of this year and the contracts happening, but please excuse me if I remain sceptical.

On that note, I thank our witnesses very much. I briefly suspend the meeting to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

11:10

Meeting suspended.

11:21

On resuming—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Document subject to Parliamentary Control

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

Welcome back to this meeting of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.

The fourth item on our agenda is consideration of Environmental Standards Scotland’s proposed strategy for 2026 to 2031, which has been laid before Parliament under the procedure set out in the UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Continuity) (Scotland) Act 2021. Environmental Standards Scotland is the independent body established under that act to monitor compliance with, and the effectiveness of, environmental law in Scotland.

The document is a revised version of ESS’s original strategy, which was first published in 2022, and it sets out how the organisation intends to exercise its functions over the period from 2026 to 2031. An earlier version of the revised strategy was laid last year, but it was subsequently withdrawn following consideration by the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, which identified that certain information required by the parent act did not appear to have been fully reflected in the document. A revised version was laid on 5 February, and I note that the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee has reported that it has no recommendations to make.

This morning, the committee will take evidence from representatives of ESS before deciding whether it wishes to make any recommendations to the Parliament. If members have no concerns, the committee may simply note the document.

I welcome to the meeting Dr Richard Dixon, chair; Mark Roberts, chief executive; and Neil Langhorn, head of strategy and analysis, all from Environmental Standards Scotland. Thank you for attending this morning. Richard, I think that you want to make an opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Document subject to Parliamentary Control

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much. I get to ask the first question. What lessons did you learn from your first strategy document about how to implement your second strategy document?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Document subject to Parliamentary Control

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

Mark, do you want to come in on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Railways Bill

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Edward Mountain

I am smiling slightly, because, although the next committee may be short of time, this committee is not exactly flush with time, given all the things that we have to do. It is good to have had that explanation.

Your explanation is that the Railways Bill would deliver deeper integration across the network. If ScotRail, the Caledonian Sleeper and Network Rail in Scotland are still the responsibility of the Scottish Government, how will that integration work? Can you give us some examples to help us to understand that, cabinet secretary?