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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

Douglas Lumsden, I think that you are up next.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

Mark Ruskell has some supplementary questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I think that we already had it on our radar, along with all the other things that we are doing in the new year, which are too many to mention.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

Before we leave this subject, I have to say that I seem to have been looking at trains for as long as I have been looking at ferries, both in this and in the previous parliamentary session. I seem to remember four ministers coming in and justifying why Abellio should lose the contract on the basis that it did not meet its PPM targets—that was the reason given to the committee. Bill Reeve has given the main reasons for not meeting the target—there were six of them, I think—and the problems that ScotRail is facing are the same ones that Abellio faced. We now have fewer trains running and a lower performance than Abellio was achieving. Why is that good news for Scotland and Scotland’s commuters, cabinet secretary?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I am not sure that that response has taken me any further. My premise is that, with fewer trains running, we should have greater accuracy on delivering trains within five minutes of their scheduled arrival time. However, we do not seem to have that, and you have said that we will not be in the position in which Abellio was with the PPM until 2027, which seems poor.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

Thanks, Monica. Bob, did you want to ask some questions?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I do not think that it would prejudice the discussions over the purchase of the port if you were to clarify whether, prior to your time as cabinet secretary, any discussions took place about whether the base should be Troon or Ardrossan.

We also heard that Peel Ports had offered to invest in Ardrossan to the tune of £170 million-ish for the improvements to the quayside to allow a 102m ferry into the harbour, because the berth was only 97m. Is that true?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I would be interested to hear Chris’s point.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay. The other thing that we heard when we met Peel Ports was that the heads of terms had been agreed for the purchase of Ardrossan and that it was just a question of transferring the money, at which point it would become the Scottish Government’s port. Is that the case, or not?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I am not disputing that. What I am trying to work out is this. We were very much told that the heads of terms had been agreed. Having done purchases of land in my previous profession, I know that it can be done quite quickly. I am not asking what the price is, but if this were to be agreed today, would you have the money to buy it tomorrow? Could it be transferred that quickly? That is normally the way it works.