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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 September 2025
Edward Mountain
It sounds as though you are taking the fifth amendment. Simon?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 September 2025
Edward Mountain
I have no idea what that means. Could you explain it to me?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 September 2025
Edward Mountain
Okay, so my frying pan is bad for two reasons.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 September 2025
Edward Mountain
Bob Doris wants to come in, but first I want to press on one little thing. Under the offence of ecocide, the bill defines long-term harm as damage that
“is irreversible or is unlikely to be reversed through a process of natural recovery within 12 months”.
That means that, although something might be able to be done to speed up the process, if there was not a natural recovery process, an unfortunate event would still be ecocide, even if somebody had done everything in their power to reverse it. Are you comfortable with that?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 September 2025
Edward Mountain
My understanding of that situation is that people can take action themselves—
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 September 2025
Edward Mountain
—whereas the bill says that there has to be
“a process of natural recovery”,
which confirms that people cannot do anything. If nature cannot reverse something, it has got to be ecocide.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 September 2025
Edward Mountain
I apologise to those online, both witnesses and those who are watching the meeting, for the continued interruptions. I am told that it is a gremlin in the system and that there is no reason for it, so we will just have to work through it. Therefore, we get to hear again what Kevin was saying—so, we will hear you twice, Kevin.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 September 2025
Edward Mountain
I clarify that the term “wanton intent” was taken out.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 September 2025
Edward Mountain
I am going to ask a couple of specific questions. My first question is for Jamie Whittle. That will give you a chance to prepare, Jamie. Is the definition of ecocide in the bill sufficient?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 September 2025
Edward Mountain
I apologise. Sorry, Douglas—please continue.