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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the eighth meeting in 2025 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. I welcome Sarah Boyack as the Labour Party substitute for Monica Lennon this week. Sarah, you do not have to make a declaration of interests because you have already attended the committee.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on whether to take items 5 and 6 in private. Item 5 is consideration of the evidence from the Scottish Environment Protection Agency and item 6 is consideration of the committee’s work programme. Do we agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I first looked at such statutory instruments when they came to the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee in 2016. It seems to be taking a long time before we get some concessionary travel for people on islands who use buses that happen to have propellers and not wheels, whereas on the mainland they have wheels and they get subsidised.

The next question comes from Bob Doris.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

In effect, you are saying that you have already convinced older people—the over-60s—to use the bus, so you do not need to encourage them to do it and you do not need to get the bus companies to encourage them to do it, but you are working on the younger generation to get them to use the bus more. Is that what you are trying to do with the scheme? I am just trying to work that out. We know that a lot of older people use the bus, and there will be a penalty to the companies for that, whereas young people are being encouraged to use the bus more. Is that the aim, minister?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

You have recovered that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

My question was particularly about the disposal of that amount of dead fish.

Before I leave the subject and we go back to Mark Ruskell’s questions, I refer you to the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee’s report that was published on 17 January 2025, which I am sure that Nicole Paterson has read. It was a follow-up to the previous Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee’s report that was published in November 2018. In the 2025 report, the RAIC is clear that a lot of work needs to be done. Paragraph 160 refers to SEPA and states:

“The Committee also recommends that the Scottish Government prioritise supporting SEPA in the development of techniques to accelerate the analysis of seabed survey samples as a matter of urgency and ensures SEPA has sufficient expertise and capacity to analyse seabed samples.”

Have you got it? Are you going to get it before next year, which is the timeframe for the results that the RAIC is looking for?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

The committee will report on the outcome of the instrument in due course, and I invite it to delegate authority to me as convener to approve a draft of the report for publication. Are we all agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I thank the minister and his officials.

I suspend the meeting briefly for a changeover of witnesses, and I must ask members to be back here by 10:23.

10:18 Meeting suspended.  

 

10:24 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you. Mark, you kindly let me in. I know that you have another question, and then we will go to Douglas Lumsden.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Before we get into whether that is a promotion or a demotion, I suggest that you just crack on.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I will stop you there. I accept that there is no doubt that others will profit from your pain and it is right that they should. However, we could look at any catchment across Scotland and I could ask whether you know every single extraction licence and every borehole in that catchment. Would you be able to say yes to me about all those and about all the discharge consents?