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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 January 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Please pass on the condolences of the entire committee to Francesca, who is very much in our thoughts at this time, as is her family.

Thank you for that opening statement. At the tail end of last week, you released a couple of reports that understandably gathered significant interest and whose content has already been raised in a topical question to the Parliament yesterday. They are stark reports about the university and college sectors in Scotland. Who is to blame for the mess that they are in at the moment?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Douglas Ross

We will definitely get into the Gillies report, and the University of Dundee specifically, later on in the meeting, but, looking at colleges for a moment, some of those colleges are not going to survive. Is that not the warning that you are giving here? Colleges Scotland chief executive officer, Gavin Donoghue, said:

“The SFC is rightly highlighting that most colleges are not financially sustainable within the current level of investment from the Scottish Government.”

By 2025-26, two thirds, I think, of colleges will be recording a deficit. That is not sustainable. Are we going to lose colleges in Scotland?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Douglas Ross

I am even more confused than I was when I started asking these questions. Maybe Pam Duncan-Glancy can get some clarity.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Ms Callaghan just said that it was not for the SFC to stop that recovery plan.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Douglas Ross

But you will not tell the Scottish Parliament’s Education, Children and Young People Committee, in our pre-budget scrutiny, how much additional money the Scottish Government should be allocating to colleges to keep them afloat in the next financial year.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Okay. I will move to other members, but I find that it is quite difficult—I am speaking not on behalf of the committee, but as a member—for us to do our job if the Scottish Funding Council will not tell us what level of funding is required for Scotland’s colleges.

We move to questions from Miles Briggs.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you, minister and officials, for your time today. I will suspend the meeting for five minutes to allow for a change of witnesses.

12:17 Meeting suspended.  

12:23 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Mr Britton, are your members saying that the evidence that we have received is incorrect, or is there underreporting or a lack of reporting in schools?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Douglas Ross

We will come on to definitions. I know that certain members have questions on that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Even on a normal day with a five-member panel, we cannot have everyone answering every question as we will not be able to get through everything. I appreciate the answers, but I need to bring in members. I know that a couple of the witnesses will need to leave in 20 minutes and I want to get your information on the record before that. We will move on to questions from Bill Kidd.