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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 January 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

That would be for the Government to look at, react to and hopefully come back to local authorities on.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

You did not hear her?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

One final area that we have not touched on so far is children’s hearings. A lot of people who responded to our call for views were positive and welcomed the enhanced role of the reporter, but COSLA was quite critical, noting that the reporter can already have informal meetings and that professionals should already be working with the child and family to support their understanding of the process. You believe that the introduction of a meeting with the principal reporter raises questions about roles in the process.

Could you explain the background to your concerns? The bill addresses the issue, but are there non-legislative ways in which it could be addressed?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you for that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you very much. I thank you all for your time and for the evidence that you have provided on the bill. It is much appreciated.

I suspend the meeting for about 15 minutes to allow for a change of witnesses.

10:37 Meeting suspended.  

10:49 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Welcome back. I welcome our second panel of witnesses. Charlotte Wilson is temporary chief inspector for children and young people at the Care Inspectorate; Maree Allison is chief executive of the Scottish Social Services Council; and John Trainer is chief social work officer for Renfrewshire Council and convener of Social Work Scotland.

Do our witnesses have any initial thoughts on today’s report by Audit Scotland and the Auditor General on progress on the Promise to date? How should that report frame our thoughts about the bill that is in front of Parliament?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Mr Trainer, you used quite stark language when you said that, for you, personally and professionally, the bill is “frustrating” and “disappointing”. Did the Government engage with yourself and others in Social Work Scotland? Our previous witnesses expressed disappointment that COSLA and local authorities were not involved. Do you think that the Government did enough engagement before presenting the bill?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Committee members will definitely raise some of the issues that you refer to. I will bring in Miles Briggs at this point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Good morning, and welcome to the 29th meeting in 2025 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. We have received apologies from Ross Greer and George Adam.

The first item of business is taking evidence from two panels on the Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill.

I welcome our first panel: Fiona Whitelock, policy manager for the Promise, Convention of Scottish Local Authorities; Dave Berry, director of the Dundee health and social care partnership; Jim Savege, chief executive of Aberdeenshire Council, representing the Society of Local Authority Chief Executives and Senior Managers Scotland; and Professor Soumen Sengupta, chief officer and director of health and social care at South Lanarkshire Council.

We will go straight to questions. I will kick off, perhaps unsurprisingly, with a question about the report from the Accounts Commission and the Auditor General that was released this morning, and which deals with the progress—or lack of it—on the Promise to date. I will come directly to you, Mr Savege. What is your response to the report’s criticism of local authorities, and is it correct? It is quite a damning report. Have local authorities, Government and others failed?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

I call Miles Briggs.