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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Douglas Ross

However, you believed that you still had £40 million that you could perhaps use to fill some of the gaps, even though it was ring fenced, but you were then told that it had all gone.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Over £7,000 was spent on that trip, and £4,723 of that was for your business-class flights, which, as Mr Briggs has just said, broke the policy. Why did you need to go business class when another senior member from the university went premium economy?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Douglas Ross

My question is about two members from the university going. You were up front in business class, at a cost of £4,723, and your colleague was behind you, in premium economy. Why was premium economy good enough for them but not good enough for Professor Iain Gillespie?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Was it right that your colleague had to travel in premium economy? Could you have shown that you were someone who was saving every penny by travelling in premium economy, too?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Douglas Ross

You must have wondered where they were, because you had the papers for period 7.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Over the past couple of days, I have spent several hours with you and Peter Fotheringham. If you, as the principal and vice-chancellor, asked Peter Fotheringham for something, I do not believe that he would not provide it—certainly not over the course of three months.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Were you worried about what was in those draft papers, so you did not want them to go to the university executive group?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Douglas Ross

If it happened once, you would not be happy, but it happened again and again. I am sorry, but I do not believe that you constantly asked for those papers. You accepted that they were never going to come to your group. Why did they not come? Just be honest and tell us.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Douglas Ross

That is probably the furthest that you have gone in more than two and a half hours of evidence. I wonder why it has taken us that long to get that amount of contrition from you.

The reason that I made that particular point about how often that phrase is repeated in the report is because, throughout your evidence today, you have tried to blame the information that you were provided with. You have said that you were not given the proper facts and figures to see those issues occurring on the horizon, to stop them from happening or to deal with them promptly.

However, Gillies says, a dozen times, that you could have been, should have been or were aware. How do you respond to that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Pamela Gillies says that in the light of all the evidence that was provided, and in the light of seeing what you were provided with by finance teams, by interim and full finance directors, by your chief operating officer and by your deputy vice chancellor.

Pamela Gillies knew all the information that you were provided with, and she still says, a dozen times, that you, as the principal, should have, could have and would have been aware of those things, but you are telling us today that, on many of those occasions, you were not.