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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Given what you said, Ms Thompson, there should certainly be an awareness of what happened with the Housing (Scotland) Bill.

You may not be able to answer my second question, but you may have some ideas. Is there a way of resolving that issue? Will we have to wait until we come to stage 2 amendments, or could the Government say something when ministers come to the committee to discuss the bill ahead of the stage 1 vote?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

We will go to Ms Galli first, if that is okay.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

We will now move to questions from Bill Kidd.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Ms Burns, your submission talks about the comment in the financial memorandum that “All costs are steady-state”. You are perhaps more concerned than previous witnesses that the memorandum is a bit light. You are worried about that statement and say:

“This is a concern and warrants further consideration.”

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

I have a couple of final questions. Section 3 of the bill extends the corporate parenting duties, and CELCIS has been arguing that extending the duties to those who have experienced more limited state involvement in their lives—for example, being in a very brief period of care as a baby—might raise human rights issues and contradict the principle of minimum state intervention.

Are you able to tell us a bit more about your concerns around that, Ms Burns?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Do you wish to comment, Ms Burns?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Ms Galli, would you like to speak before we finish?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

You committed absolutely to bringing forward amendments during the summer—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Okay. Mr Hedge, having heard—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

That is very contrary to what the minister actually said in person to the committee.

I took great comfort from what you said, minister. I was very encouraged by what you said and how you said it. However, it seems that that was never the intention. Having previously served as a minister, I am concerned about that, because when I appeared in front of a committee, if I said something that was incorrect, my team would normally say, “Maybe you should write back to the committee because you misspoke. The impression that you gave was not one that is reflected in what you can achieve.” Others may look into that.

I return to where we got to in the chamber last night with the financial resolution. We are now only a couple of weeks away from the deadline of 26 September. When will the Cabinet discuss it?