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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Ms Nairn, as a Highlands and Islands MSP, I am keen to look at the issues around UHI, which obviously go wider than just the Highlands and Islands—we have recently seen a situation in Perth. There is no doubt that UHI and the colleges have been going through challenging and turbulent times. As the principal and vice-chancellor of UHI, what responsibility do you have for some of the issues that have arisen?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Page 40 of your “Report and Financial Statements” for 2024 says that

“the University Court is responsible for assessing the group’s and the parent institution’s ability to continue as a going concern”.

What responsibility do you have for the recent situation in Perth, where the principal has lost her job? Do you bear any responsibility for the situation there, or was that wholly a local issue that you could not have been aware of?

09:45  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Where is the monitoring, scrutiny and oversight before a principal has to resign? You knew that she was going to resign—there was a lot of focus on that—so you did not only know when the letter was handed in to her board.

What about the steps that led up to her taking the big decision to resign? She had worked with UHI for many years, so where was the scrutiny by the RBS and the court before it got to that stage?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Is it right that you have laid off about 40 staff in the executive office? Colleges have been losing staff, so you have led from the front and lost about 40 staff.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

You think that you saved £3.8 million, and we will see that from your accounts—there will be a £3.8 million reduction in the executive office staffing funding.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

It is between £10 million and £11 million, and the executive office takes in £15 million from the colleges. Is it correct that, if the colleges did not have to lose that top slice, UHI would not be in financial deficit?

10:00  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

So, it might not have been compliant up to this point, but it will be in future.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you—that helpful suggestion is noted. I am very happy for us to end on a positive response on the future of Moray college from the principal and vice-chancellor of UHI.

I thank you all for your time this morning. You will be aware that we had a session with individual universities and Universities Scotland. We have now heard from colleges and Colleges Scotland, and it is our intention, when we come back from the summer recess, to have a discussion with the ministers about financial sustainability for both the college sector and the university sector. Your input today and your written submissions will be extremely helpful to us in our endeavours.

The committee will now move into private session to consider its final agenda items.

12:00 Meeting continued in private until 12:24.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Are you saying that it was all the responsibility of the individual college, principal and board and nothing to do with you as principal and vice-chancellor, or with the RSB?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

So the RSB can intervene.