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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 January 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Cross-portfolio Session

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

The way I listened to it on Sunday was that you were saying that the ask potentially came from Professor Jay or someone else. Do you accept that there was not an ask for clarification to be sought in relation to the strategic group minutes, because it was a Scottish Government response to Professor Jay’s letter?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Cross-portfolio Session

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

It was her preferred route because she was offered only two routes: a response from the cabinet secretary or that more public route of a clarification in the minutes. Were you briefed to say on “The Sunday Show” that

“There was an ask for clarification to be sought in relation to the strategic group minutes”?

You actually said it twice, and I can give you both quotes. It was a very particular quote, and it stuck with me. Were you told that that was the line to take? We have all been given lines to take, so was that what you were told to put across?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

As Mr Kidd mentioned victims and survivors, I invite George Adam to come in, as he wants to extend that line of questioning.

10:15  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

You have said that you are not in the practice of making private calls for Government business. Did you say that you think that the time that we are discussing was the only time that you have ever done that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

But would you welcome the clarity that any investigation would bring? Would you have any concerns?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

I am not doubting that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you very much, cabinet secretary, and thanks to your officials. I appreciate your time today.

11:18 Meeting suspended.  

11:30 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you very much, Professor Jay. On behalf of the committee, I say how much we appreciate your agreeing to join us at short notice and your answers today. I think that there has also been an offer through the Government for you to meet committee members and other spokespeople—we are extremely grateful for your doing that.

I wish you well with your endeavours. It is important work that you have to do to get answers for victims who have not had answers for so much time. We all wish you well in your work.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

Interestingly, I asked a question in Parliament and was provided with that detail.

Are you aware of paragraph 8.13 of the ministerial code?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

That is helpful.

Professor Jay, you will also be aware that a quote you gave in January of this year was used in the chamber by the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs. There have been a number of urgent questions about that, and correspondence between you and the Government that was released last week showed that you sought a clarification, and that a clarification was made to the minute of a body of which you are a member. However, the Official Report of our Parliament still says this:

“Is Mr Kerr aware of the work led by Professor Alexis Jay, who was the chair of an independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in England and Wales and who currently sits on our national strategic group? She shares my view and has put on the record and stated to the media that she does not support further inquiries into child sexual abuse and exploitation, given the significant time and resource already spent in the review that she led, the Casey audit and other reviews. She says that it is now time that

‘people should just get on with it’.”

Liam Kerr, in responding to that intervention, said:

“The cabinet secretary has put that on the record”—[Official Report, 16 September 2025; c 31.]

and that is still on the record of our Parliament. It is the only such reference in that debate. Do you think that a clarification that was made to the minutes of the strategic group should also be clarified in our Parliament’s Official Report?