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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 January 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Okay—thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Professor O’Neill, you said that you had been asking questions. Was it in October that you saw that information in the audit paper, or did you have indications earlier than October?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Did you not say to people on the court, “Look, I’m asking these questions of the principal. Make sure that this is a big red marker in your audit papers”? You had Ms Bey thinking that everything was fine when you were asking questions about this.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Ms Bey has been very clear with Mr FitzPatrick—she was able to give him the exact date—but you are telling us that you were raising questions before that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Did you have access to them when you were in your previous role at the university?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Had you not read them?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

You were deputy principal.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

No, you would not, because unless Ms Bey is giving us incorrect information or you are giving us incorrect information, we have all the details. What we now know is that the interim principal of the University of Dundee, who at the time was the deputy principal of the University of Dundee, was raising concerns about student numbers at the exact same time that the court and the audit committee of the court of the University of Dundee were being told that the situation was green, that there were no worries and that they could carry on as normal.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

I understand the constraints—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Yes, but if we are talking about a month between the chair being appointed and the inquiry being able to form, that is another delay that will concern this committee and members across Parliament. I hope that the message is quite clear that we need a robust inquiry to be set up and taking evidence as quickly as possible. From my mailbox—indeed, from what I have received during the meeting—it is clear that people want to speak to the inquiry, have their opinions heard and ensure that lessons learned from it, and then Parliament must have opportunity to look at it, too.

I see that I am getting nods.