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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 January 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

On that point, do you understand, that there will be some frustration today that the proposal has not been pursued? The unique learner number is not a new thing; it is something that the commissioner for fair access has referred to in the past. I do not know whether Mr Dey would accept this comment, but there was disappointment when he was at the committee that he was not able to tell us whether the unique learner number would need legislation, what it would cost or details about some of those data-sharing issues.

Several weeks have now passed and you have only today given a commitment to speak to the Information Commissioner. Many people will have hoped that the Government would have done that before now. If this is something that you are treating seriously, why have you not done that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

But it should not be impossible to learn from such cases just because they have been settled. I understand that you will not have the full extent of, say, a debate and a determination, but surely there will still be learning to take from those cases that can be passed on to other authorities—or is that not happening?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you, commissioner, Ms Wilson and Mr Hobbs, for your evidence today, the report that you published earlier this week and your written submission, which were very helpful to us.

I suspend the meeting to allow our witnesses to leave and the committee to move into private session for our remaining agenda items.

12:45 Meeting continued in private until 13:00.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

On schools and the exam system, what is your view on the Education (Scotland) Bill as it stands? We will consider amendments to the bill when we come back from the Easter recess. Does the bill offer you any reassurance that things will progress, or do you think that the bill needs to do more?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

Can you not tell us, cabinet secretary?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

It is very easy—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

Sorry, cabinet secretary, but it is very easy to answer that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

It is 65,000—okay.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

So it has been undertaken.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

Given that it was quite a significant part of your letter to the committee, what happens if issues arise from that? The letter says:

“A DPIA will typically identify both the lawful basis and legal gateway for processing any personal information.”

If issues are raised as a result, how will they come back to this committee or to Parliament? Are you saying, “Do not worry about this—we think that everything will be fine”?