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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 January 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

The committee has approved the draft regulations, so it must now produce its report on the draft instrument. Is the committee content to delegate responsibility to me as convener to agree the report on behalf of the committee?

Members indicated agreement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

There are no further questions from members, so I invite the cabinet secretary to move motion S6M-19851.

Motion moved,

That the Education, Children and Young People Committee recommends that the Education (Scotland) Act 2025 (Consequential Provisions) Regulations 2026 [draft] be approved.—[Jenny Gilruth]

Motion agreed to.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

I am not asking about the Promise bill—indeed, the relevant minister will appear before our committee shortly.

Ms Brown, are solicitors in the Scottish Government aware that almost every witness we spoke to on that specific bill reiterated concerns that they had expressed about bills from other departments of the Scottish Government, which were that legislation is being introduced that might have to be changed at stage 2 because, when it is presented by the Government, it is not compliant with UNCRC? I note that we have before us a quite simple and straightforward SSI that ministers tell us in their policy note is compatible with the UNCRC.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

You can tell us about the Promise bill, because I will certainly be raising the matter when we have our stage 1 debate very soon.

Witnesses told us, as the committee scrutinising the legislation, that they had made similar points on the housing bill to other committees. I am still wondering why the Government must tell us that a relatively straightforward SSI is compatible with the UNCRC while concerns exist about the compatibility of new legislation that the Government is introducing, such as the Promise bill.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

With respect, you gave almost exactly the same answer at that previous committee meeting. You also gave an assurance that you would go away and seek further advice. You are saying, in effect, that nothing is changing at the moment—that the Government will continue to introduce legislation that is not compliant. You are speaking about things that will happen months and years from now, but we have more than a dozen pieces of legislation to get through before the end of this session of Parliament in a matter of months.

Stakeholders are telling us that we need to make amendments at stage 2 to the Promise bill and, potentially, other Scottish Government bills. Is there any change in the thinking, either from solicitors, the legal directorate, ministers or cabinet secretaries, about introducing bills in a form that causes stakeholders to criticise them and tell the committees that scrutinise those pieces of legislation that they are not compatible with the UNCRC?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

Will officials come back to us on that? You will have seen that we mentioned the issue in our stage 1 report on the Education (Scotland) Bill. It has been highlighted in other committees. We are coming to a period when a lot of legislation will come through the Parliament. If we, as Opposition MSPs, have to keep amending legislation, it would surely be better if it could be changed before it is even introduced. Could we get a commitment that the Government will look at the legal aspects of the concerns around UNCRC compatibility?

09:45  

I stress the point that the issue is about not just one bill that is being discussed at this committee; witnesses have said that they made similar points about other bills in other committees earlier in the process. Given your policy note, I felt that I had an opportunity to raise the issue today, and I will also do so with the minister. As I said, will officials come back to us on that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

Okay. I call Paul O’Kane.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

Minister, you mentioned in response to Mr Mason that you had become aware of the case of a child who did not have access to education. For how long was that individual denied education? Did you become aware of that case because it had to be escalated to you for ministerial involvement, or was there just an update that that was happening?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

Page 4 of the Scottish Government policy note notes that Scottish ministers have stated that the regulations are

“compatible with the UNCRC requirements”.

In that case, why are your department and your Government still bringing forward legislation that is not compatible with the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Cross-portfolio Session

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

We are going to move on to schools. We will start with Mr Greer on teacher workload, and then we will look at contact time.