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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 March 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Douglas Ross

You will be aware that another inquiry is under way in Scotland into a public body that was told to do exactly what you are doing, but documents were destroyed, even though there was a “do not destroy” order. Should that be of any concern? Do you think that what has happened in NHS Tayside could not possibly happen in Police Scotland?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Douglas Ross

A whistleblower has got in contact with me during today’s meeting to reiterate this point. I am aware of the issue, but I will ask you about it first: do you accept that there is a significant backlog and a demand on the officers who are currently working in public protection units?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Douglas Ross

Absolutely.

I thank you for your attendance today, for the information that you provided in advance of the meeting, and for the work that you will be doing in the weeks, months and years ahead. The committee will now move into private session to consider its final agenda item.

12:05

Meeting continued in private until 12:07.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Douglas Ross

We might come on to that, but it is a useful scene setter for what we will discuss. Obviously, there will be a statement in the Parliament later today, and the issue continues to be in the public domain. Perhaps asking about the current scale of the problem in Scotland was too big a question. However, I take it that we all accept that instances have been missed and that victims have not had justice. Do you agree with that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Douglas Ross

My next question is for our Police Scotland colleagues. There is concern that incidents have been missed, whether that relates to how they are reported, recorded or investigated. How do you respond to that? What is your role in trying to get to the bottom of what went wrong in the past? How can you improve things going forward if there are some concerns about Police Scotland’s activities during the period that we are looking at, as well as prior to that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Douglas Ross

Child social work assessment meetings found that there were 13 reported cases of organised child sexual abuse and exploitation identified at those meetings but that there were none in Glasgow, none in Edinburgh and none in Dundee. Does that figure of 13 cases across Scotland sound about right, and do you think that our biggest cities would have no cases at all, or are they not being reported in the right way, being missed or not being investigated correctly?

As the inspectorate that is looking at this issue, does that rough figure sound correct, or do you think—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Douglas Ross

Before I move on, I want to go back to the truth project. Professor Jay, I think that you mentioned that 6,000 individuals were involved.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Douglas Ross

Louise Casey was able to do it far quicker in England and Wales. Do you accept that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Douglas Ross

Thank you. We go to Bill Kidd.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Douglas Ross

Good morning and welcome to the eighth meeting of the Education, Children and Young People Committee in 2026. Our first item of business is an evidence session on group-based child sexual abuse and exploitation.

I welcome our witnesses: Professor Alexis Jay, who is the independent chair of the national strategic group on child sexual abuse; Craig Naylor, His Majesty’s chief inspector of constabulary in Scotland; Deputy Chief Constable Bex Smith of Police Scotland; and Detective Chief Superintendent Sarah Taylor, the head of public protection at Police Scotland. I thank them all for attending today and for the written submissions that we have received.

We will move straight to questions. Professor Jay, there has been an informal session with a cross-party group of MSPs, at which you gave a good update on exactly what we are looking at today and on the wider issue. In order to get that into the Official Report, please tell us what grooming is and how your independent group and others are looking at that. Also, what is your evaluation of the current situation here in Scotland, in comparison with other parts of the United Kingdom? That is a simple opening question.