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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Douglas Ross

You said in an earlier answer that you are happy with the settlement that you got for your portfolio, which includes the future for young people. Do you believe that, as a result of this budget, we will eradicate child poverty in Scotland?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

Douglas Ross

Just to press that a little bit further, I note that we have heard about the impact that outdoor education has not just on the pupil but on the teacher who teaches the pupils for the remainder of the year. Staff at the Broomlee centre told us on Monday that September is a big month for primary 7 and secondary 1 classes—they have noticed a real difference in those transition years. I take Ross Greer’s point in the spirit in which he asked his question, but there is clearly also a benefit from pupils seeing their own teacher in such environments. Is that what you have picked up, Liz?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

Douglas Ross

I thank you for your time today, and I thank the officials from the non-Government bills unit and Parliament. We have heard sincere cross-party good wishes offered to you, Ms Smith, for the work that you have done and will continue to do in this area. This has been the final session of our consideration before we construct our stage 1 report, and it has been extremely helpful.

That concludes the public part of our proceedings. I suspend the meeting to allow our witnesses to leave and the committee will move into private session.

10:52 Meeting continued in private until 12:01.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

Douglas Ross

Thank you for your opening statement, which covered a lot of areas. Members will want to delve into those in more depth.

I think that you attended and observed all the committee’s public evidence sessions on the bill. What did you make of the evidence that we received? Is there anything that you would like to highlight or pick up on from the evidence that you heard?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

Douglas Ross

The curriculum in Scotland is largely non-statutory. Why do you believe that the Parliament should put your proposals into legislation?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

Douglas Ross

Thank you. Willie Rennie will ask the next question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

Douglas Ross

You might not have anything to add, Mr Stewart, but given your experience with other non-Government bills, is the approach that is being taken by the Government consistent, or is it different with this one?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

Douglas Ross

I bring in Miles Briggs to continue on finance and funding.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

Douglas Ross

You mentioned the committee visit. Mr Mason, Mr Briggs and I were at the Broomlee outdoor education centre on Monday. We watched a presentation to begin with, and we watched a video of a teacher who has taken pupils to outdoor education centres for many years. He said that the thing that really makes them is the staff. Will you comment on the staff that you have met at outdoor education centres? In everything that I have seen, and in some of the evidence that we have taken from witnesses, the staff’s professionalism, dedication and enthusiasm for outdoor education has really shone through.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

Douglas Ross

Finally, before we go to Jackie Dunbar, I have a question on finance. When the cost of a bill reaches a certain threshold, a financial resolution is required. If the Government introduces the legislation, it lodges that resolution. As a member with a non-Government bill, you cannot lodge that—it has to be lodged on your behalf by the Government.

You heard the questions that were put to the minister on that issue. What was your reaction to the minister’s response that, on the one hand, the Government was neutral on the bill, but that, on the other, it was not looking at lodging a financial resolution?