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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 September 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Douglas Ross

—and it is very clear that a breach of the covenant, whether tested or not, is reportable to the SFC. Therefore, the point that you just made does not even matter.

Mr Fotheringham, how could a director of finance not know? I put to you the same point that I put to Dr McGeorge. When you were trying to work with the bank to stop the breach happening, or to prevent its implications, did you not pull a file or carry out a Google search to see what a breach means for a university?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Why not?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Douglas Ross

The Gillies report says a couple of times:

“It is not known whether the DoF was aware of the breach sooner than 4 October”.

As director of finance, were you aware of the breach sooner than 4 October?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Douglas Ross

This gets worse. So, it just so happened that you were meeting with the bank.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Douglas Ross

To prepare for that meeting, you were going to ask the bank not to take the matter further, and not to make it a breach. You we looking for mitigation.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Before you sent the email, you picked up the phone to the principal and said—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Was Dr McGeorge not there?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Douglas Ross

That does not matter—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Douglas Ross

That does not matter, because you did not know that it had to be reported.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Douglas Ross

The policy is quite explicit that you are responsible and that you do need to sign that off, Ms Millar. Were you not aware of the policy?