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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Jon Vincent, we were told that, apparently, colleges were the culprits.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Douglas Ross

How does the Government respond when you put that point to it? Does it see this as more of a priority than sorting out—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Douglas Ross

The Funding Council was trying to reassure us that apprenticeships would be protected, because they have very separate and specific budgets. Is that not contrary to what you have just said?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Okay. Thank you very much.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I am very keen to have as much debate as possible, but we have another panel following this one, so, in the interests of time, I ask members to keep their questions as tight as possible, with tight responses as well. That will allow us to bring in everyone who is keen to get in.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I can understand your defence, but I also have a concern that if there has been reduction in teaching time and other elements of the courses, we should be upfront and honest with employers and say that there has been quite a significant change. Given that you cannot answer these questions today, I think that there will be further queries going forward.

Sai, is there anything from the student’s perspective that you can articulate on the change in classroom contact time that has taken place over a number of years?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you. I call Bill Kidd.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I suppose that my specific question, though, is this: do they even know that this bill is going through Parliament at the moment? Are they up to date with and aware of it? Are they worried about it, or are they waiting to see how your negotiations and discussions and the debates in here conclude before they ring the alarm bells?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Douglas Ross

A letter of guidance is not absolute. There is always provision for exceptional circumstances, and we have just discussed examples of pretty exceptional circumstances.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I have a couple of final questions. Sir Paul Grice, you will have heard the concerns that have been raised in evidence that moving apprenticeships into the SFC will mean that they will be diluted and that, given all the issues in your sector, another university or universities might, at some point, seek additional financial support from the SFC, so money for apprenticeships could be siphoned off from achieving the principal aim of supporting universities and other institutions. Do you accept that? If so, what can be done to reassure those who are concerned about that? If universities seek additional support from the SFC in the future, should it look at its entire budget in order to provide support?